Greek Social Life - Then and Now

[Dionysus]

Originally Posted by kathykd2005

OMG.

The girls I knew who didn't put out in college were closet lesbians, or worse, strong Christians.

[RushLeader08]

lol ew no!!!
they just party ALOT and my mom would think i did too if she knew.

[kathykd2005]

Originally Posted by Dionysus

The girls I knew who didn't put out in college were closet lesbians, or worse, strong Christians.

O Dionysus, you so silly. Lolzzz.

[TSteven]

Originally Posted by [QUOTE=Benzgirl

We had fun and got crazy. We just did it differently and with more modesty.

Originally Posted by nittanyalum

Wow, this thing is getting heated, I'm sure vtgreekalum is glad he waded in here! (btw, Chris, my take from hanging out here for a few months is that greek life today is still pretty much the way it was when we were younger, the kids today just have lots more hoops to jump through with risk management and they can communicate a lot faster and more efficiently than we could with all their gadgets and whatnot... otherwise, normal societal differences between "then" and "now" may translate into your son/daughters having a very similar or very different experience from you, depending on their campus)

Benz, I think you need to throw up a LOLcat and bug on outta here!

"Too much information!" - That is how I interpreted Benzgirl's comment about doing "stuff" differently and with modesty "back in the day".

We are living in an electronic "tell all" information age and just about anything and everything we do can become public knowledge with just a few clicks of the keyboard. Or cell phone. Or digital camera. Or digital camera in our cell phone. The bottom line seems to be that what use to be considered priviate personal information is now being made public. Both the "good" and the "bad".

[SWTXBelle]

[ThetaPrincess24]

Originally Posted by SNBullet

No offense, but if you ask a guy to have sex with you, and he doesnt have a condom and you do it anyway, you deserve any funky cheese you get. Same goes for guys, if you dont have a condom and you know a girl in the biblical sense, you derserve whatever you catch. Alchohol is no excuse for impaired judgement. dont drink as much.

I drink, and yet somehow i am able to avoid all these temptations and dont make stupid choices. if you get sloshed and make bad choices then thats the consequence of your action. deal with it.

Exactly!!!!

I have little sympathy for men & women who come into my clinic claiming alcohol and/or drugs is why they have an STD.

[kathykd2005]

Originally Posted by SWTXBelle

buahaha.

[ΑΓΔSquirrelGirl]

Originally Posted by fantASTic

I think you have taken what your niece has said as fact, when in actuality it is far from the truth. Just because she hangs out at shady places with meth and half naked people doesn't mean it's anywhere near the norm.

THANK YOU

[Lucky SC]

coke seems to be a pretty big issue today from what i hear on most campuses at SEC schools, was it a big issue back then?

[EtaEpsilove]

Originally Posted by Benzgirl

The drugs. Trust me...It's there. One Miami University Sigma Nu OD'd last month on Methadone. There also have been several threads on GC to support chapters whose charters' were pulled due to drugs. I didn't do weed when I was in school, but it was there. I never said that everyone was doing it, but the drugs today seem to be more addictive.

I'm sorry, but I absolutely need to respond to this post. I went to Miami University, and I was active in Greek Life and the Miami community. I know a great deal about this situation; in fact, I helped pay to fly a sorority sister back from Korea to attend the funeral of this "Miami University Sigma Nu" - her best friend, also known as Clifton Alexander.

I am not condoning the actions in this situation; and yes, Clif died from an overdose of Methadone. However, he had experienced incredible migraines since he was nine years old. He was hospitalized again and again for them, and while he was not prescribed Methadone, I believe he was taking it to ease his pain. Methadone is a pain reliever, and from everything I have heard from his friends, he was not using it to get high, but to ease his suffering. I of course do not know exactly what happened, but Clif was an OUTSTANDING individual who you cannot just characterize as a druggy. He was a deeply caring individual who will be greatly missed!

I know you didn't necessarily mean it to come off this way, but do not trivialize his death by implying that he was just one more drug addicted kid. I'm not condoning the use of illicit drugs, and hopefully his death will be a lesson to others about the dangers of using prescription drugs without a prescription, but please, he was a good kid who was in a great deal of pain. He was not just snorting lines of coke at some party - this is a completely different situation, and it does NOT illustrate the point you are trying to make.

[33girl]

Originally Posted by kathykd2005

Hey now! I take offense to that. I graduated in 2005--we had fun, we did it tastefully, and we didn't need to do drugs, have illicit sexual contact, or drink excessively in order to do it!!!

BG & I are around the same age I think, and (I know she'll correct me if I'm wrong) I think that what she means by "modesty" is "we didn't put pictures of it all over the freaking internet." I know I've stated this before on here, but - professional photogs at mixers?? At formals?? We would have NEVER allowed anyone like that into our private events. This doesn't even touch putting pics on the internet - this concept is just so beyond me I can't even wrap my brain around it. I understand that cameras are different and it's the easiest way to share photos, but I certainly don't want Harry Baals from Pigsknuckle Arkansas looking at pictures of me at a toga mixer, even if it's completely innocuous. My pictures and memories of my good times are for my friends and I, not the world. Honestly, download the pics onto your PRIVATE computer and send a PRIVATE email.

Lucky - not SEC, but I got offered coke a few times when I was an undergrad (and no I didn't indulge, I got spontaneous nosebleeds as it was). From what I understand, it's much more prevalent now, everywhere.

[AGDee]

I think, in general, Greek social life and general collegiate social life frequently parallel each other. Although, in this Risk Management day and age, I think that Greek parties are more regulated than general college parties. I know that nobody who has a party at their house is hiring security guards, as is the requirement for many Greek events now. When I was in college (around the same time as Benzgirl), if you wanted to drink, you found a way to drink. If you wanted to smoke pot, you did. The only drugs I was exposed to in college were marijuana and inhalants. Some of the guys were really into whippets (sp?). I think drug use/prevalance goes in phases. After the wild 70's, the 80's college students were fairly conservative. You do hear more about college students dying of overdoses again, which is sad. We also had a huge scare in the 80's, when HIV came about, which did have a huge impact on sexual activity, once it became known that it wasn't just a drug addict/homosexual disease. I think there was a big difference in behaviors from 1983, when I started school to 1987 when I graduated. Some of the things that you generally hear about now, like "friends with benefits" weren't happening then. Perhaps that trend was born from the HIV threat. One night stands were dangerous, but perhaps it was less dangerous if someone is a trusted friend.

Anyway, my real point is, any social trends going on at colleges around the country are going on for ALL students, not just the Greeks.

[Dionysus]

Originally Posted by AGDee

Anyway, my real point is, any social trends going on at colleges around the country are going on for ALL students, not just the Greeks.

I agree. I know MANY non-greek college students and even a few graduate students who party way crazier than the Greeks.

[RushLeader08]

i think that my friends that are not in my sorority are alot crazier than my friends who are also my sisters. when did gdis become even more fun than greeks?! the times they are a changin!

[vtgreekalum]

It certainly seems as if there is a significant gap between the perception of things "now" by some and the reality of it as reported by current or recent students.

As for my "thens":

Mixer themes: Barn Party, Jungle Party, Boxers and Blazers, Revenge of the Nerds (several variations on this one), Hawaiian.
Sex: People actually dated one on one, no "group dates" like seemed to become popular in the 90"s; few random hook-ups, but lots of people sleeping with their boyfriends/girlfriends - it wasn't the 50's after all.
Drugs: Beer, Grain alchohol, little wine - unless you were on a date. Not much pot and nothing harder - Tech was pretty conservative that way. Coke and LSD was
in high school, but that may just have been Fairfax County.
Risky Behavior: It may seem mild now, but we had a pledge who cut the bra off a passed out drunk girl without removing her shirt and then kept it as a trophy for awhile. Rarely a drunk guy would run naked throug the house.
One thing no one mentioned was the apparent disappearance of the Fraternity little sister programs. We had 20-25 girls who were mostly independents -usually the girlfriends or relatives of brothers and their friends. They helped decorate the house,
went to intramural events and rush events, got to wear letters, paid no dues; like "cheerleaders" for the Fraternity. There was nothing overtly sexual about the sitiuation, although the Sororities we held functions with usually requested they not come.