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Old 10-13-2011, 11:52 AM
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I was thinking thst if It was a legal issue and not agency policy, it might fall under the law about babies being born in wedlock legally assumed to be fathered by the husband unless a contrary affidavit is filed. In this case, even though the biological mother is not actually the one giving birth, it MIGHT be argued that the husband of the biological mother could be assumed the legal father. It would be a huge reach, but a really savvy and persuasive lawyer might at least get a hearing on it. Being how emotional this process is for all involved, I'm thinking this may be a safeguard about that even being a possibility.


This whole thing reminds me of Elle debating with Warner in Callahan's class about sperm donor's rights. LOL
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Old 10-13-2011, 12:03 PM
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I was thinking thst if It was a legal issue and not agency policy, it might fall under the law about babies being born in wedlock legally assumed to be fathered by the husband unless a contrary affidavit is filed. In this case, even though the biological mother is not actually the one giving birth, it MIGHT be argued that the husband of the biological mother could be assumed the legal father. It would be a huge reach, but a really savvy and persuasive lawyer might at least get a hearing on it. Being how emotional this process is for all involved, I'm thinking this may be a safeguard about that even being a possibility.


This whole thing reminds me of Elle debating with Warner in Callahan's class about sperm donor's rights. LOL
I wouldn't think so. Technically, all parental rights would be with the couple/woman giving birth to the child. Biological or not, the legal mother would be the one who gave birth, unless it was a surrogate in which case the surrogacy agreement would spell out who has a legal claim to the child.
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Old 10-13-2011, 12:59 PM
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A little trivia (from last month) for those who don't play Ken Jennings' Tuesday Trivia:

The world's largest sperm bank has just announced it will no longer accept donations from men with what easily apparent physical characteristic?
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Old 10-13-2011, 01:07 PM
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A little trivia (from last month) for those who don't play Ken Jennings' Tuesday Trivia:

The world's largest sperm bank has just announced it will no longer accept donations from men with what easily apparent physical characteristic?
Red hair. Ka-ching. Good think that doesn't apply to women (or Clariol red).
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Old 10-13-2011, 03:16 PM
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Here's something about it that sort of ruffled my feather and I'm sure will have the GC feminist panties in a twist...my husband has to sign off on this. Mine won't have a problem doing that, but really? That marriage certficate gives him that kind of control on MY eggs? The ridiculous nature of our law allows me to abort HIS baby without his say so, but I don't have full legal control of my unfertilized eggs. WTF?
When I had my hysterectomy in 1998, I was told my husband would have had to sign off on the procedure had I still been married. Since when does a husband know more about the medical needs of a woman than her doctor?

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Old 10-13-2011, 03:39 PM
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Would opinions change if this was about spousal consent for tubectomy and vesectomy?
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Old 10-13-2011, 05:22 PM
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For me they would not. But I figure you knew that already.
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Old 10-13-2011, 09:04 PM
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For me they would not. But I figure you knew that already.
I didn't know that already. Did I miss a post somewhere?
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Old 10-13-2011, 09:25 PM
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This is incredibly improbable, but, I suppose the agency could be freaked about something like this happening: Woman agrees to donate her eggs. Goes through the stim cycle, has a bunch 'o eggs harvested, something goes unrealistically awry and woman dies. Husband still wants to have a child with said woman and only way to do it is to get back those eggs before they are fertilized with some other guy's swimmers.

Chances of that happening? Probably one in a gazillion. But there has been enough weirdo litigation over egg donation/embryo donation/sperm donation/conception after one party's death, etc., that the thought might have occurred to someone.

Not to be morbid!! But, that's the scenario that I thought of when you said your husband had to sign off.

On another note, you are awesome for doing this. We didn't need an egg donor, but I know many women who did, and it is a true blessing that there are women who will act as donors.
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Old 10-13-2011, 09:25 PM
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Would opinions change if this was about spousal consent for tubectomy and vesectomy?
Nope. There's a difference between a spouse being UPSET and feeling betrayed about those kind of decisions and having a LEGAL say in those decisions.
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Old 10-13-2011, 09:28 PM
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On another note, you are awesome for doing this. We didn't need an egg donor, but I know many women who did, and it is a true blessing that there are women who will act as donors.
Thanks for this. I have started praying for the future couple (person) and their baby!
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Old 10-13-2011, 10:29 PM
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Here's something about it that sort of ruffled my feather and I'm sure will have the GC feminist panties in a twist...my husband has to sign off on this. Mine won't have a problem doing that, but really? That marriage certficate gives him that kind of control on MY eggs? The ridiculous nature of our law allows me to abort HIS baby without his say so, but I don't have full legal control of my unfertilized eggs. WTF?
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Old 10-15-2011, 05:11 AM
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Here's another theory to throw into the pot. When a woman starts taking all those hormones, there is a load of emotions that come with them and not all are pleasant. Sometimes a husband has to have a thick skin to tolerate the mood swings. Perhaps the agency is protecting themselves in the case where this can lead to divorce?

Another interesting point, if a man goes to a urologist for fertility testing, if he's married, his wife's name is the primary one on HIS file.
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Old 10-15-2011, 04:08 PM
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Here's another theory to throw into the pot. When a woman starts taking all those hormones, there is a load of emotions that come with them and not all are pleasant.
OH YEAH TRUE STORY. (One of my sisters is driving everyone nuts, for this reason.)
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Old 10-15-2011, 05:53 PM
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FWIW - I had to sign off on my now ex-husband's vasectomy.

Cinderella (second daughter) is in the process of filling out her egg donation paperwork - she's through the first approval step.
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