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Old 11-08-2006, 01:54 PM
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I thought the topic hear was about the death penalty of Saddam. He is part of the legal system now..unless I'm mistaken??

Here's my take:

Collateral damage = death of innocent people
Tyrranical murders= death of innocent people
War=death of innocent people
Lying about reasons for going to war=death of innocent people

Sorry I didnt say anything you want to hear, Macallan. Maybe some other time, eh.
This is actually exactly what I was going to say.
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Old 11-08-2006, 02:08 PM
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Word, and I don't necessarily disagree - but the whole point is that the rationale behind why I don't really get down w/ CapPun doesn't necessarily apply directly here. It seems a little counterproductive, is what I'm getting at.
ditto on the above - this whole thing is just a crazy convoluted mess

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Old 11-08-2006, 04:10 PM
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Holy crap. You people are ridiculous. YOUR PARTY VOTED FOR THE WAR. If you buy the "well, our democratic leaders were misled by Bush," then you're an idiot. People in this country just have no stomach for war anymore. Its ironic, considering that people are yelling about Darfur, but as soon as we do something and people get hurt, we're gonna demand a pullout.
My party did NOT vote for the war. I didn't vote for any party.

Bush lied to Democrats AND Republicans.

People in this country don't have stomach for war? In your lifetime, has war being waged in this country? I'm talking about REAL war..not terrorist attacks. Let's see what kind of stomach you have then. As long as this country is the aggressor, we can be cozy in our little world and talk about it on GC Oh, you if you have such high tolerance to war, how come you're not serving?

I think it's ironic that Darfur is getting attention NOW.
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Old 11-08-2006, 04:13 PM
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I do think serial killers and murderers and Saddam are of a different variety than war casualties. .
Of course, I agree that they are criminals and should not be compared to war casualties.

But if you're going to put a president through the legal system for his crimes, you can't be biased....there are other presidents/dictators who commit crimes where innocent people die as well.
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Old 11-08-2006, 05:04 PM
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My party did NOT vote for the war. I didn't vote for any party.

Bush lied to Democrats AND Republicans.

People in this country don't have stomach for war? In your lifetime, has war being waged in this country? I'm talking about REAL war..not terrorist attacks. Let's see what kind of stomach you have then. As long as this country is the aggressor, we can be cozy in our little world and talk about it on GC Oh, you if you have such high tolerance to war, how come you're not serving?

I think it's ironic that Darfur is getting attention NOW.
So you wouldn't consider the terrorist attacks an act of war? Please define "REAL" war.
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Old 11-08-2006, 05:32 PM
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So you wouldn't consider the terrorist attacks an act of war? Please define "REAL" war.
War- an act of a government
Terrorism- an act of a movement
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Old 11-08-2006, 05:39 PM
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What did Bush lie about?
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Old 11-08-2006, 05:47 PM
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What did Bush lie about?
ALOT

No terrorism is an act committed by criminals. War is an act committed by government --at least this war. BIG DIFFERENCE.
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Old 11-08-2006, 06:10 PM
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Can you actually answer his question........I don't think "alot" gives you any sort of credible argument.
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Old 11-08-2006, 06:23 PM
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Yeah, its cool, I'll wait. Usually the response is just a louder rendition of "Bush lied, people died!"
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Old 11-08-2006, 11:57 PM
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LOL@you two. Dont you guys watch the news? I'm not going to make a list of all the things he lied about. It's public knowledge.

Shiner, but Bush did lie, and so far over 600,000 Iraqis have died. hmmmm..
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