The Murder of Trayvon Martin

[MysticCat]

Originally Posted by DrPhil

Trash talking is par for the course.

Sure, but this poster's trash talk just doesn't sound to me like the trash talk of a PNM who just graduated from high school.

[Mizeree I2K]

Originally Posted by DrPhil

ETA: Are you saying that this is what people incorrectly claim or is this what you believe? If you are saying that this is what people incorrectly claim, I agree with you. If this is what you believe, this is inaccurate.

No, I'm saying that this is the kind of picture the media paints. They make it seem that white crimes are an individual problem versus black crimes being a collective problem. I also believe that minorities of color in this country are culturally conditioned to believe that European Americans are superior and that other folks of color (especially black folks) are inferior. That's where most of the racial problems stem from.

[DrPhil]

Originally Posted by Mizeree I2K

No, I'm saying that this is the kind of picture the media paints. They make it seem that white crimes are an individual problem versus black crimes being a collective problem. I also believe that minorities of color in this country are culturally conditioned to believe that European Americans are superior and that other folks of color (especially black folks) are inferior. That's where most of the racial problems stem from.

Thanks for clarifying. I agree.

[AOII Angel]

Originally Posted by MysticCat

Asks the poster who claims not to have been to college yet.

Unless, of course, you're a troll or a sock. If you're not, you're doing an awfully good impression of either one.

All the evidence points toward sock, IMHO.

[MysticCat]

Originally Posted by AOII Angel

All the evidence points toward sock, IMHO.

Looks that way to me.

[DrPhil]

For those wondering "What next? What can be gained?"

After Trayvon Martin, African American pastors vow to be more than worship leaders

(I see the Soror in the above article's photo.)

Trayvon Martin's mother: 'Use my broken heart'

I have mixed feelings about Trayvon Martin's father's comments in Capitol Hill:

Tracy Martin at Capitol Hill

[PiKA2001]

Originally Posted by DrPhil

Trash talking is par for the course. I was just curious about why some people believe manslaughter (with full knowledge of what manslaughter entails in Florida) should not have been considered.

Another take on Juror B29

So the media is still using selective editing when quoting players in this event? I would have thought that they would know better by now. By some accounts it seemed as if this juror was forced to acquit by her fellow jurors.

[DrPhil]

Originally Posted by PiKA2001

So the media is still using selective editing when quoting players in this event? I would have thought that they would know better by now. By some accounts it seemed as if this juror was forced to acquit by her fellow jurors.

This highlights the need to get information for ourselves instead of waiting for secondhand accounts. People who watched/listened to the Juror B29 interview themselves know the full extent of what she said. My interpretation of the interview is she feels they made the right decision based on the circumstances but the overall outcome failed Martin's parents. Someone let me know if that is off base.

[ASTalumna06]

Originally Posted by DrPhil

My interpretation of the interview is she feels they made the right decision based on the circumstances but the overall outcome failed Martin's parents. Someone let me know if that is off base.

I think this is exactly it.

Based on the law and what was presented, they couldn't convict. But of course her heart still breaks, as someone's child is dead. I think if I was in that same position, I couldn't help but feel some sense of guilt, whether justified or not.

[badgeguy]

As reported on CNN....is this a true story? If so very sad, and if its made up by the guy who claims he was attacked, then shame!
(I have seen stories in the past where someone white blames a crime on a black person, to only find out that they were lying!)

http://www.cnn.com/2013/07/28/us/dc-...ime/index.html

[UVA17]

Originally Posted by MysticCat

Sure, but this poster's trash talk just doesn't sound to me like the trash talk of a PNM who just graduated from high school.

Qui, moi? My middle school basketball coach would be so happy to know that I've finally started trash talking!

[amIblue?]

Oh good. You're (both) back. Quelle surprise.

[PiKA2001]

Originally Posted by badgeguy

As reported on CNN....is this a true story? If so very sad, and if its made up by the guy who claims he was attacked, then shame!
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http://www.cnn.com/2013/07/28/us/dc-...ime/index.html

I don't see why it wouldn't be true, getting mugged in a large city like D.C. isn't all that uncommon. I'm sure whoever the perp is would have done this regardless of the Zimmerman verdict, he was probably just being a smart-ass by saying it was for Trayvon.

I have seen stories in the past where someone white blames a crime on a black person, to only find out that they were lying!)

The only story I can think of off the top of my head is that woman (Susan Smith?) who drowned her 3 boys by driving her van into a lake. IIRC her claims of being carjacked by a black male were made to throw the police off, not as to set it up as a racially motivated crime.

[Munchkin03]

Originally Posted by PiKA2001

I don't see why it wouldn't be true, getting mugged in a large city like D.C. isn't all that uncommon. I'm sure whoever the perp is would have done this regardless of the Zimmerman verdict, he was probably just being a smart-ass by saying it was for Trayvon.



The only story I can think of off the top of my head is that woman (Susan Smith?) who drowned her 3 boys by driving her van into a lake. IIRC her claims of being carjacked by a black male were made to throw the police off, not as to set it up as a racially motivated crime.

Bethany Storro. Ashley Todd. Amanda Knox.

Those three came up at the top of my head. Clearly white girls in trouble find that their crazy will be overlooked if they just blame a black person!

[ASTalumna06]

Originally Posted by Munchkin03

Bethany Storro. Ashley Todd. Amanda Knox.

Those three came up at the top of my head. Clearly white girls in trouble find that their crazy will be overlooked if they just blame a black person!

Do you think that part of the reason why they do it is so that it seems like a random crime, acted out by someone who they don't know? In other words, it wouldn't implicate any of their family members, and most likely, none (or very few) of their friends, so they claim it's a person of another race. Making it seem random means that investigators know going in that to find the perpetrator is going to be difficult - if not impossible - and it takes the focus off of the "victim's" life.

Just a thought.