The Murder of Trayvon Martin

[ASUADPi]

Originally Posted by badgeguy

I thought it was against the rules of GC to be negative towards other GC members??

Stop responding to the thread! The more you respond, the more people are going to get pissed off about your opinion. It is much easier to "jump down" someones throat in an online, not in your face, forum than in person.

Unfortunately, there are people in the world who aren't keen on hearing others opinions (hell my own mom is one of them).

If you are tired of being berated stop responding.

-back to the regularly scheduled thread....

[Mizeree I2K]

Originally Posted by badgeguy

Is the horse dead yet!?!

Is ya mama ugly enough to scare the flies off a shit wagon?

Originally Posted by badgeguy

First off, you seem to be blatantly ignoring the fact that there was a fight between the two.....and at the time of the incident Zimmerman was not fat...but rather seemingly fit.

Have a seat, home's....

Originally Posted by DrPhil

As for Mizeree's response that "none of it makes sense", I hope he read my post that Phrozen was responding to. Nothing in Mizeree's response refuted anything in my post to which Phrozen was responding. Trust me, we have enough nonsense in the legal and cj system. Mizeree, you do not want to encourage a system in which a prosecutor can only use what you said in your post in a courtroom and it results in a conviction. If you are fine with that, also be fine with that when it results in a verdict that you disagree with. Instead, you would probably argue against a verdict and complain the prosecution didn't have a strong case. If the defendant is a racial and ethnic minority, you would probably claim racist legal/cj system. But, that's what you wanted when it came to the Zimmerman verdict--you got what you asked for and don't like the outcome. We have a right to disagree with verdicts and we have a right to nonviolent protest. In using these rights, we should understand the different foundations of our protests and think about potential outcomes. I compare it to people who are against the death penalty until it hits close to home. Then they want the death penalty in their state and have amnesia as to why it was done away with. I weep for a society (and world) that is expected to go up and down on a whim.

I wasn't talking about anybody's post per se. I should have clarified that better. I meant that none of it makes sense as in the verdict made no sense.

I know that if it were the other way around, Martin would have gone to prison. It wouldn't have mattered if the victim was black or white, he still would have gone to jail. Y'all know damn well the system is wrong, and it has never worked for black people. That verdict was bullshit, and y'all damn well know it.

[DrPhil]

Originally Posted by ASUADPi

It is much easier to "jump down" someone's throat in an online, not in your face, forum than in person.

Speak for yourself. Those of us who have these discussions in person know they sometimes go very much like this thread.

Originally Posted by Mizeree I2K

I wasn't talking about anybody's post per se. I should have clarified that better. I meant that none of it makes sense as in the verdict made no sense.

Thanks for clarifying.

Originally Posted by Mizeree I2K

I know that if it were the other way around, Martin would have gone to prison.

I believe so but the difference is the prosecution would probably do what they need to do to have a strong case. That didn't happen in the Zimmerman trial.

Originally Posted by Mizeree I2K

Y'all know damn well the system is wrong, and it has never worked for black people.

The legal and cj system has always been flawed. That point can be made without exaggerating. It is not true that it has never worked for Black people. It often does not work for Blacks and Hispanics but that is not 100%.

Originally Posted by Mizeree I2K

That verdict was bullshit, and y'all damn well know it.

No, the prosecution was bullshit. The verdict was on point and in response to the bullshit.

[badgeguy]

Hahahahahahhahahahahahahah

[ASTalumna06]

Originally Posted by DrPhil

No, the prosecution was bullshit. The verdict was on point and in response to the bullshit.

Ah, everything narrowed down to one sentence.

[Kevin]

Originally Posted by badgeguy

Hahahahahahhahahahahahahah

Just...don't.

[DrPhil]

I agree with this article:

http://news.msn.com/crime-justice/ju...ublic-backlash

The practice of jurors speaking out so soon is annoying but they have every right to do so. Just be prepared to face backlash. It also goes against the "respect and don't question juries" argument that someone in this thread made earlier. Why should we respect and not the least bit question when the jurors themselves are not allowing this to be silenced; and their publicly expressed opinions mirror that of some of the general public?

[UVA17]

Originally Posted by DrPhil

Then you were making an analogy. Did you attempt the analogy because you believe the prosecution was reaching in the Zimmerman trial and it should not have been permitted?

I swear you are thicker than cold maple syrup. Did you actually go to college? Keep up with the Homey the Clown impression though; it's entertaining

[DrPhil]

Originally Posted by UVA17

I swear you are thicker than cold maple syrup. Did you actually go to college? Keep up with the Homey the Clown impression though; it's entertaining

Well, self-proclaimed young college student and PNM, I was actually asking you a question to understand your perspective on the Zimmerman trial. Do you feel as though the prosecution should not have been able to ask the jury to consider manslaughter?

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Juror B29 is as annoying as juror B37:

Juror B29 says she owes Martin parents an apology

[ASTalumna06]

Originally Posted by UVA17

I swear you are thicker than cold maple syrup. Did you actually go to college? Keep up with the Homey the Clown impression though; it's entertaining

Uh, what?

U-n-necessary.

[Mizeree I2K]

Originally Posted by DrPhil

The legal and cj system has always been flawed. That point can be made without exaggerating. It is not true that it has never worked for Black people. It often does not work for Blacks and Hispanics but that is not 100%.

If they got money or if it's more than obvious they didn't do the crime, it will work for them. But with a state appointed attorney, black folks can hang it up. That's why you can have small cities where the black population is low, but check out that city's prisons and you'll see that the majority of the inmates are black.

What kills me is when white folks start pulling that black on black crime shit out of their asses. See, when it comes to black folks and murder, with us, it's always a collective problem. 85-90% of white killings are committed my white folks, but with them, it's an individual problem. They got this whole game working in their favor.

Originally Posted by DrPhil

No, the prosecution was bullshit. The verdict was on point and in response to the bullshit.

I didn't look at it from this perspective. This is on point, and I feel you.

Originally Posted by badgeguy

Hahahahahahhahahahahahahah

LOL @ this dumb mutha fuggah. Hey home's, do you wipe your ass before you take a shit?

[DrPhil]

Originally Posted by Mizeree I2K

If they got money or if it's more than obvious they didn't do the crime, it will work for them. But with a state appointed attorney, black folks can hang it up. That's why you can have small cities where the black population is low, but check out that city's prisons and you'll see that the majority of the inmates are black.

Whatever the explanation, it isn't true that the legal and cj system never works for Blacks.

Originally Posted by Mizeree I2K

What kills me is when white folks start pulling that black on black crime shit out of their asses. See, when it comes to black folks and murder, with us, it's always a collective problem. 85-90% of white killings are committed my white folks, but with them, it's an individual problem. They got this whole game working in their favor.

ETA: Are you saying that this is what people incorrectly claim or is this what you believe? If you are saying that this is what people incorrectly claim, I agree with you. If this is what you believe, this is inaccurate.

Originally Posted by Mizeree I2K

I didn't look at it from this perspective. This is on point, and I feel you.

Not everyone believes the prosecution sucked. Some of us in this thread believe that and have said it numerous times (long thread with long posts). For those who don't believe that, I think Sunny Hostin is among them, it is interesting hearing their perspective.

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I want this to be an SNL spoof but I think it's real. Is the timing mere coincidence?

KKK tries to recruit for 'neighborhood watch' program in Springfield

[DrPhil]

All is right with the world:

U.S. gun group raises $12,000 for George Zimmerman

I agree that Zimmerman should not be harmed. I only have an issue with the "gun or alarm" thing because gun rights advocates were pushing for Zimmerman to get back his gun. There is something missing in this equation.

[MysticCat]

Originally Posted by UVA17

I swear you are thicker than cold maple syrup. Did you actually go to college?

Asks the poster who claims not to have been to college yet.

Unless, of course, you're a troll or a sock. If you're not, you're doing an awfully good impression of either one.

[DrPhil]

Originally Posted by MysticCat

Asks the poster who claims not to have been to college yet.

Unless, of course, you're a troll or a sock. If you're not, you're doing an awfully good impression of either one.

Trash talking is par for the course. I was just curious about why some people believe manslaughter (with full knowledge of what manslaughter entails in Florida) should not have been considered.

Another take on Juror B29