AEPi chapter disaffiliates from National Organization

[curtgesture]

I apologize I didn't read the whole Alpha Sigma Alpha webpage or I would have seen the are other exemplars.

Your point does not say anything to deny that the rest of the groups openly have Christian roots...representing 23% of NPC. And you cannot deny that Jewish/African-American/Non-religious GLOs were created because at that time there was discrimination in Christian-rooted GLOs and those members were not accepted.

[clemsongirl]

Originally Posted by curtgesture

I apologize I didn't read the whole Alpha Sigma Alpha webpage or I would have seen the are other exemplars.

Your point does not say anything to deny that the rest of the groups openly have Christian roots...representing 23% of NPC. And you cannot deny that Jewish/African-American/Non-religious GLOs were created because at that time there was discrimination in Christian-rooted GLOs and those members were not accepted.

No one was denying this, not that I've seen in this thread. I'm not proud of the discriminatory actions my organization has taken in the past, but I will not pretend that it did not happen.

[33girl]

We're not talking about things that happened 100 years ago, we're talking about things that are happening now.

[Sen's Revenge]

Originally Posted by curtgesture

I apologize I didn't read the whole Alpha Sigma Alpha webpage or I would have seen the are other exemplars.

Your point does not say anything to deny that the rest of the groups openly have Christian roots...representing 23% of NPC. And you cannot deny that Jewish/African-American/Non-religious GLOs were created because at that time there was discrimination in Christian-rooted GLOs and those members were not accepted.

The creation of Black Greek Letter Organizations had nothing to do with being barred from white fraternities and sororities. No founder of any NPHC organization wanted to be a member of a white fraternity or sorority.

BGLOs are a different type of organization entirely. They use fraternalism as the framework of social justice. That is not what the other organizations do.

This is a commonly held misconception, so please don't think I'm attacking you. But it's very important to understand that blacks being barred from membership in white organizations was not the CAUSE for the founding of black organizations.

(Especially since only three of the nine NPHC organizations were even founded at white colleges in the first place.)

[Shellfish]

Wikipedia isn't a first-hand source, you know. Some twit has gone crazy with KD's page.

[naraht]

Originally Posted by Shellfish

Wikipedia isn't a first-hand source, you know. Some twit has gone crazy with KD's page.

Can you be more specific? While there has been a lot of editing this year, most of it has been by a fairly experienced editor deleting information is closer to what would be in a rush pamphlet than what is normally in Wikipedia. Perhaps some of those sections could be restored with secondary sources (Newspaper articles, etc)

[naraht]

Due to statements made presumably either during Ritual or in other application material and pledging processes...
1) Is there any NPC sorority that would feel uncomfortable with a chapter having the President of the College Hillel. (Jewish student group)
2) Is there any NPC sorority that would feel uncomfortable with a chapter having the President of the College Pagan Society.
3) Is there any NPC sorority that would feel uncomfortable with a chapter having the President of the College Agnostic Society.
4) Is there any NPC sorority that would feel uncomfortable with a chapter having the President of the College Atheist Society.

(Uncomfortable is up to and including charter revocation for having broken national membership rules)

[DeltaBetaBaby]

Originally Posted by naraht

Due to statements made presumably either during Ritual or in other application material and pledging processes...
1) Is there any NPC sorority that would feel uncomfortable with a chapter having the President of the College Hillel. (Jewish student group)
2) Is there any NPC sorority that would feel uncomfortable with a chapter having the President of the College Pagan Society.
3) Is there any NPC sorority that would feel uncomfortable with a chapter having the President of the College Agnostic Society.
4) Is there any NPC sorority that would feel uncomfortable with a chapter having the President of the College Atheist Society.

(Uncomfortable is up to and including charter revocation for having broken national membership rules)

Here's the thing...a lot of NPC groups (including my own) accept women of all backgrounds, but then expect them to participate in recitation of a creed that references the Christian or Judeo-Christian god*. So, I think the answer to your question is something like, "No, as long as they will act Christian at times."

*I'm referencing open creeds here because that's what we can all see, rather than getting into ritual, but we all know the majority of NPC rituals contain scripture.

[33girl]

And as I tried to update my post to say, espousing "Christian values" does not mean you are a Christian, i.e. believe Jesus is the Messiah. There are atheists and pagans out there who conduct their lives in a more Christian way than some self professed Christians do.

[Sen's Revenge]