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Old 01-29-2010, 08:25 PM
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seriously, enough with the victim blaming.
Assuming there's a victim.

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it's no classier....
"Classy" is such an overused word on GC.

I honestly don't hear adults walking around talking about "classy."
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Old 01-29-2010, 08:31 PM
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Assuming there's a victim.
well going from the idea that he didn't burn his own butt... or continue to burn his own butt...

and if the crux of your response is your distaste for the overuse of the word classy, let me first apologize profusely and then ask for a list of more obscure words with which to make my future points.
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Old 01-29-2010, 05:19 PM
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Ok he consented the first time he was branded, but then he was branded several times while passed out. He didn't consent to that. The Star-Telegram article says that once he passed out, someone (presumably fraternity brothers) continued to brand him with Deltas (for Tri Delt). He's not completely innocent, but the facts need to be taken into consideration.
I'm having problems with the "passed out" part. If I was passed out, either by being drunk or whatever, I can guarantee that the first time someone held a piece of hot metal to my ass, I would be up. They wouldn't be able to do it "several times" and me stay passed out.

But then, I have a low pain threshold. I don't see how women get their legs waxed. I'd be all, "Yeah, not again. I'll walk around with hairy legs."
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Old 01-29-2010, 07:11 AM
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Branding can get you kicked off campus even if you consent. That is what happened to my brother and his chapter.
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Old 01-29-2010, 09:50 AM
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True^^

This is serious and it doesn't matter if he consented once, twice, or three times.

Keep in mind hazing refers to any activity expected of someone joining a group - or to maintain full status in a group - that humiliates, degrades or risks emotional and/or physical harm, regardless of the person's willingness to participate.
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Old 01-29-2010, 08:16 PM
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I could see passing out from the pain itself. That happens.
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Old 01-30-2010, 12:55 AM
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So . . . you don't believe he was passed out because . . . he was drunk? Because he's rich and stupid? Or any other of a variety of factors that probably point more toward that conclusion?

Think about this from the angle of how we found out about this bit of information. Seriously. Think about it, then concentrate. It carries much more credibility than most of us are assigning.

Also, if you've seen the photos of the one that's not the Kappa Sigma, I mean . . . it does not exactly look like a coordinated effort. This smacks of people forming a hypothesis than freezing on it, even in light of additional information.
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Old 01-30-2010, 10:15 AM
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So . . . you don't believe he was passed out because . . . he was drunk? Because he's rich and stupid? Or any other of a variety of factors that probably point more toward that conclusion?

Think about this from the angle of how we found out about this bit of information. Seriously. Think about it, then concentrate. It carries much more credibility than most of us are assigning.

Also, if you've seen the photos of the one that's not the Kappa Sigma, I mean . . . it does not exactly look like a coordinated effort. This smacks of people forming a hypothesis than freezing on it, even in light of additional information.
Maybe I'm high on life, but this post made absolutely no sense to me. LOL

As for the passed out thing, I don't doubt he passed out just as quite a few people probably passed out in that binge drinking collegiate setting.

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Old 01-31-2010, 12:19 PM
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Their logic:

"Your name is on our football stadium, so our name should be on your ass"
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Old 01-31-2010, 04:35 AM
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so, according to the old row boards (whether or not they're correct or this is just rumor I don't know), but the boards say that they branded delta delta delta on his other ass cheek while he was crashed, because there was some other tri-delts with him. Basically he had one brand that he wasn't so opposed to, but the tri-delt one... he wasn't a big fan.

If that's so, it's assault, not hazing.

Whether or not this rumor is true, I don't know.
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Old 01-31-2010, 08:49 AM
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so, according to the old row boards (whether or not they're correct or this is just rumor I don't know), but the boards say that they branded delta delta delta on his other ass cheek while he was crashed, because there was some other tri-delts with him. Basically he had one brand that he wasn't so opposed to, but the tri-delt one... he wasn't a big fan.

If that's so, it's assault, not hazing.

Whether or not this rumor is true, I don't know.
Nice...underage binge drinking raises its ugly head again! They'll regret this for some time. Even if criminal charges aren't filed and their chapter doesn't suffer consequences, I bet the people involved will end up having civil suits filed against them. I agree that this is assault, but in the eye of the public, with fraternities, their is no difference between hazing and assault. I just wonder how much they disliked "Chance" to do this to him while he's passed out.
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Old 01-31-2010, 12:02 PM
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so, according to the old row boards (whether or not they're correct or this is just rumor I don't know), but the boards say that they branded delta delta delta on his other ass cheek while he was crashed, because there was some other tri-delts with him. Basically he had one brand that he wasn't so opposed to, but the tri-delt one... he wasn't a big fan.

If that's so, it's assault, not hazing.

Whether or not this rumor is true, I don't know.
That sucks big time.

Binge drinking collegiates do yet another dumb thing. If the old row account of it is correct, isn't assault essentially synonymous with hazing in such instances, as far as many are concerned?

Angel, it reads like they were dumb beyond human comprehension. I don't assume they didn't like Chance so much as they were using their brand (they probably were extremely inexperienced in branding) to mark their drunkeness and stupidity. At the same time, I have heard of people getting other organizations' symbols branded on them as a sign of some "bond." It is dumb but not unheard of.

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Old 03-04-2010, 07:55 AM
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I went to TCU. The moment I saw this story I didn't need to know which house it was. I knew it was Kappa Sig. Their TCU chapter usually consists of local Fort Worth yokels and rednecks from the surrounding areas.
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Old 03-04-2010, 09:55 AM
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I went to TCU. The moment I saw this story I didn't need to know which house it was. I knew it was Kappa Sig. Their TCU chapter usually consists of local Fort Worth yokels and rednecks from the surrounding areas.
Painting with an awful broad brush there aren't you, Bubba?
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