Re-Initiating - Page 3

PeppyGPhiB · #31 02-07-2007, 01:48 AM

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Originally Posted by PhiMuAmberkins

I'm not sure how many chapters there are...but I'm willing to be it's quite a few (ie probably in the thousands or hundreds of thousands). If I hated my chapter, I have over 100,000 other Phi Mu chapters that I could conceivably transfer to.

What do you mean hundreds of thousands of chapters? 100,000 other chapters to transfer to? I thought maybe I misunderstood you at first, but I think you may be confused?

PhiMuAmberkins · #32 02-07-2007, 02:41 AM

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Originally Posted by PeppyGPhiB

What do you mean hundreds of thousands of chapters? 100,000 other chapters to transfer to? I thought maybe I misunderstood you at first, but I think you may be confused?

No, I'm not confused, I'm just sleepy and can't type correctly. I meant hundreds of chapters, hundreds of thousands of women this girl's friend might be able to get along with. I shall fix it!

PeppyGPhiB · #33 02-07-2007, 04:51 AM

Ah, gotcha.

HeatherH84 · #34 02-07-2007, 05:14 AM

Thanks y'all for all your help and advice! I just feel so bad cuz she so badly wanted to have great sisters!!! I will talk to her about trying to transfer to a different DZ chapter!!!

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MTSUGURL · #35 02-07-2007, 10:20 AM

A few years ago when I was recruitment chair, a girl transferred in that was an initiated member of Sigma Kappa. The SK president from her old campus emailed the presidents and recruitment chairs of each sorority on our campus to let us know because she had a feeling the girl might try to join another group. The girl had never said anything, she just had a feeling. I emailed her back to ask her about the girl because she had contacted me and was eligible to join Phi Chi since we were local. There may be thousands upon thousands or millions of Greek women around the world, but that world can become very small when it needs to be.

AlphaFrog · #36 02-07-2007, 11:10 AM

Ok...I know it happens, because we've seen it before...but I still can't get over the fact that people would actually transfer schools because of a GLO.

If/when I ever get around to looking at Grad schools, if two schools I'm looking at are basically identical in reputation, academic offering, etc and one has ASA, I'm going with the one that has ASA. If the one with ASA is academically inferior, I'm going with the better college.

Also, I really hate seeing this GLO getting dragged through the mud on this thread. Every GLO has a bad chapter or 3, but they don't need to be pointed out. This GLO had great women on my campus.

AngelPhiSig · #37 02-07-2007, 11:43 AM

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Originally Posted by BlueNYC2

i'm not sure how orgs in the other councils work, but in the NPHC, you cannot join an organization after you have become of member of another one that is an honorary, or service org.

I know MANY women who are members of a NPCH sorority and also in organizations like Tau Beta Sigma (honorary) and Gamma Sigma Sigma (service)... so obviously this isnt true - and not just at my school but at other schools, including HBCUs.

adpiucf · #38 02-07-2007, 01:05 PM

Transferring to a new school because you don't like your sorority is not necessarily the best course of action. I know that sometimes as college students we lose sight of the big picture, but the fact remains that we go to college to get an education so that we can go on to be working professionals.

Your friend cannot join another NPC. She has the option to stick it out with DZ or drop out of DZ. Should she transfer to another university where there is a DZ chapter, there is no guarantee that the chapter will approve her petition to affiliate.

Should she be dishonest and rush at another school under the pretense that she was never initiated into an NPC, she will be living a lie. At some point, by her own slip up or guilt, or if someone else knows the truth, her life will become a living hell and she will completely destroy the chapter she joined because of her lies.

Also, she needs to carefully consider the repercussions of transferring. Whether mom and dad are footing the bill for college, or she's working her way through, on student aid, etc., not all of her credits are guaranteed to transfer. She may spend a lot of time and a lot more money to complete college because she transferred.

She needs to think through what her priorities are. If she isn't enjoying the sorority, she needs to talk to her big sister, or a chapter adviser. She can involved as a sorority leader and help effect change to make this the chapter she believed she was joining. Or she can drop out of the sorority. There are many meaningful activities on a college campus that she can investigate.

At the end of the day, she needs to make the decision to stay in DZ or drop DZ. But she must consider all her options carefully and keep sight of the big picture: college graduation within a reasonable amount of time and some professional goals to strive toward. We don't go to college just to join sororities and then bounce around to various universities trying to find a sorority we're happiest with. Every sorority has internal issues. This one sounds like it may have more than most, but not every sorority woman loves her chapter all of the time, and it is up to her to make it work or quit. This decision is never an easy one.

A sorority is a fulfilling social activity where you can make wonderful friends and memories, and you have a reasonable amount of time to determine during your 4-8 week new member period if this is a place you feel comfortable before initiation. She made the decision to be initiated, even with only 7 others staying in her pledge class and knowing there were problems. She needs to be a mature adult and think about ethical and financially feasible options that will get her to where she needs to be. But at the end of the day, someone who transfers to a different university for a sorority opportunity... well, that's just not a very mature decision.

ADPiLove · #39 02-07-2007, 02:49 PM

Ok, now I'm a little confused about the whole "being a member of NPHC means you can't be a member of a professional/service org." Sorry for being dumb, but what does NPHC stand for?

I ask because I'm an ADPi, but I also joined the Phi Alpha Delta Pre-Law Fraternity (before recruitment) and nothing has happened concerning my dual membership. Lots of girls in my chapter, and other chapters on campus are in a professional fraternity as well.

#40 02-07-2007, 03:04 PM

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Originally Posted by ADPiLove

Ok, now I'm a little confused about the whole "being a member of NPHC means you can't be a member of a professional/service org." Sorry for being dumb, but what does NPHC stand for?

I ask because I'm an ADPi, but I also joined the Phi Alpha Delta Pre-Law Fraternity (before recruitment) and nothing has happened concerning my dual membership. Lots of girls in my chapter, and other chapters on campus are in a professional fraternity as well.

The National Pan-Hellenic Council, Inc. (NPHC) is an umbrella organization for nine historically black Greek letter fraternities and sororities. You'll often hear them referred to as the Divine 9.

I'm surprised you don't know what NPHC stands for. I know not all New Member Education programs are the same, but I assumed that there'd be some information about the NPHC. I learned about the NPHC the same time I learned about the other 25 NPC sororities.

As far as dual memberships go (in a NPC/NPHC & honorary/professional/service sense), we all know it's possible and allowed. The person I quoted earlier was definitely mistaken.

33girl · #41 02-07-2007, 03:05 PM

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Originally Posted by ADPiLove

Ok, now I'm a little confused about the whole "being a member of NPHC means you can't be a member of a professional/service org." Sorry for being dumb, but what does NPHC stand for?

I ask because I'm an ADPi, but I also joined the Phi Alpha Delta Pre-Law Fraternity (before recruitment) and nothing has happened concerning my dual membership. Lots of girls in my chapter, and other chapters on campus are in a professional fraternity as well.

National Pan-Hellenic Council

As subsequent posters pointed out, the poster who said that is incorrect.

33girl · #42 02-07-2007, 03:06 PM

JINX BUY ME A COKE.

#43 02-07-2007, 03:07 PM

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Originally Posted by 33girl

JINX BUY ME A COKE.

It's gonna hafta wait till June, bia.

33girl · #44 02-07-2007, 03:07 PM

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Originally Posted by OTW

It's gonna hafta wait till June, bia.

And then it will have Jack in it!!!

KSUViolet06 · #45 02-07-2007, 03:25 PM

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Originally Posted by MTSUGURL

A few years ago when I was recruitment chair, a girl transferred in that was an initiated member of Sigma Kappa. The SK president from her old campus emailed the presidents and recruitment chairs of each sorority on our campus to let us know because she had a feeling the girl might try to join another group. The girl had never said anything, she just had a feeling. I emailed her back to ask her about the girl because she had contacted me and was eligible to join Phi Chi since we were local. There may be thousands upon thousands or millions of Greek women around the world, but that world can become very small when it needs to be.

This reminds me of a girl at my school who rushed this fall & joined ABC. Well, toward the end of fall semester, after initiation, she had some issues with Kent and decided to transfer. She transfered to Muskingum University which has mostly local sororities.

She told her ABC sisters that she would miss them and made plans to hang out with her big who lives by her new school (who I'm friends with). She got to her new school, and decided to join a local (XYZ).

Don't get me wrong, she was perfectly free to join the local, but the abrupt manner in which she did so was upsetting to her big and other sisters. She did so without terminating her membership in ABC. So once she got to her new school, her ABC big and sisters were calling her and asking to hang out and she never returned their calls.

Her big in ABC called me crying one day because she decided to suprise visit her at Muskingum since she lives in the area . She went to her dorm and was like "hey let's hang out". The girl told her she didn't want to hang out because she's "not an ABC anymore".

Soon after, she removed all the ABCs from her Facebook and MySpace friends. Like I said, she was allowed to do so, I just thought it was mean to just leave like that and not talk to any of them anymore even as friends.