Jesse Jackson

[Inquisitive]

[QUOTE]Originally posted by AKA2D '91:
[B] OHhhhhhhhhhhh Soror...


You don't believe in role models? Anyway, that's your believe...BUT, speaking for myself, my role models have been those who I can touch, see, speak to on a daily basis, etc.


My role models have been/are:
MY MOTHER
MY LATE FATHER
MY AUNTS
MY former TEACHERS
FRIENDS of my Family
MY Grandmother

I couldn't agree with you more! The only role model that I've ever had in my life was my mom. She was the one who put a roof over my head, clothes on my back, and food in my stomach not some celebrity or public figure.I learned a long time ago not to put faith in any man. After working in my profession for so many months, nothing surprises me anymore as far as people's moral capabilities I HAVE SEEN AND HEARD IT ALL! Needless to say I was surprised at the news I heard today regarging Mr. Jackson but it didn't fade me.

This also takes me back to the post AKATUDE made under the thread "When Will They Learn". You can't keep things like this from the public nowadays I mean people are constantly out there searching for dirt and believe me if it's there they will find it! What you do in darkness shall be revealed in the light. People, especially those in the public eye need to be more careful and responsible for their actions and choices they make.

Lastly , does anyone know anything about the affair that Micheal Jordan supposedly had with singer Vanessa Williams before she was married to Rick Foxx. I heard about it maybe a year and a half ago on a radio station but I could never find out if it was only arumor or if it really did happen. If so it only proves what I and other have previously stated nothing can be kept secret for long eventually things will come out!!!




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[Inquisitive]

[QUOTE]Originally posted by AKA2D '91:
[B] OHhhhhhhhhhhh Soror...


You don't believe in role models? Anyway, that's your believe...BUT, speaking for myself, my role models have been those who I can touch, see, speak to on a daily basis, etc.


My role models have been/are:
MY MOTHER
MY LATE FATHER
MY AUNTS
MY former TEACHERS
FRIENDS of my Family
MY Grandmother

I couldn't agree with you more! The only role model that I've ever had in my life was my mom. She was the one who put a roof over my head, clothes on my back, and food in my stomach not some celebrity or public figure.I learned a long time ago not to put faith in any man. After working in my profession for so many months, nothing surprises me anymore as far as people's moral capabilities I HAVE SEEN AND HEARD IT ALL! Needless to say I was surprised at the news I heard today regarging Mr. Jackson but it didn't fade me.

This also takes me back to the post AKATUDE made under the thread "When Will They Learn". You can't keep things like this from the public nowadays I mean people are constantly out there searching for dirt and believe me if it's there they will find it! What you do in darkness shall be revealed in the light. People, especially those in the public eye need to be more careful and responsible for their actions and choices they make.

Lastly , does anyone know anything about the affair that Micheal Jordan supposedly had with singer Vanessa Williams before she was married to Rick Foxx. I heard about it maybe a year and a half ago on a radio station but I could never find out if it was only arumor or if it really did happen. If so it only proves what I and other have previously stated nothing can be kept secret for long eventually things will come out!!!




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[AKA2D '91]

[quote]Originally posted by Inquisitive:

Lastly , does anyone know anything about the affair that Micheal Jordan supposedly had with singer Vanessa Williams before she was married to Rick Foxx. I heard about it maybe a year and a half ago on a radio station but

I had heard that too. I also heard that she had something going on with Brian McKnight when he first came out...you know she supposedly "discovered" him, she had given him his first exposure on a BET special back in the day....

[serenity_24]

I agree with all who noticed the timing issue. We cannot afford to lose sight of the bigger picture.

Jesse was planning all sorts of boycotts and the likes in protest of the things going on with Bush's cabinet appointees not to mention the way he won the election.

It's an age old tactic...divide and conqure. If the media puts enough spin on it to ruin Jesse in the eyes of the black community, they won't have anything else to worry about. Think about it... who will step up after he's gone? We already are at a shortage of leadership as it is. We have a lot of talkers and the likes but talk is cheap. Who will actually go and do the things that Jesse has done?

[Eclipse]

So many things to say....so little time!!

There are several comments that I really agree with, but will refrain from just co-signing. I have one question though, that I haven't seen addressed:

I heard that Jesse is paying the mother $10,000 a MONTH for child support/hush money/whatevah. What I want to know is: What do Jesse do??? (ebonics!!) I mean that is some serious cash and you KNOW Miss Jackie was not going to let her lifestyle go down that much just to support his little side piece. Has Jesse ever had a job? You know, a regular 9/5 with benefits and such?

[The Original Ape]

I would like to suggest some things to all of you; but before I do, think about these statements first:

1)I agree with the person that stated she's tired of the excuse that men will be men.
2)I agree with the statement that women would be looked upon as dogs if they were to do the same thing.

Now consider this:

Who knows the status of Jesse's marriage? Who knows the motivations of the woman that mothered his newborn? Even if it's true, who stood to gain from Jesse's defamation, and what did they stand to gain? Consider the timing of this gettin' out.

We as African-Americans have to remind ourselves that character assasination is usually the first step taken by our enemies to remove our leaders. Once we judge this person as morally inept, we castrate that person from our causes. When that happens, we are leaderless, and lose any progress toward uniting ourselves. Think about it. Every leader we've had in this country experienced the same things during their most active times. I know that most of yall aint tryin' to hear it, so I'll stop here.

Just remember; all that glitters aint gold.

[kocandi712]

First of all, I agree with Lady AKA and some other's comment regarding staying focused on the issues at hand, although I am needless to say, saddened and disappointed at the news.

Secondly, to answer an early question regarding the mother of this child, I heard this morning that she's a PH.D. that taught on the collegiate level. I only thought that was semi-interesting, because when I first heard this story, I ASSUMED she was a young, dumb gold-digging type. (Guess that's why mama said don't ASSUME--find out).

[southernbelle]

It's sad that this child will grow up labled as the "love child" of Jesse Jackson. Basically, Jesse is only human and nobody's perfect. Just like when Bill Clinton cheated, it was like "big deal." I'm more angry that now the white people (who really don't like him anyway) have something else to talk about.

[Conskeeted19]

Wow! Where have I been? It is 11:00 P.M. and I am just hearing about the drama.

Original Ape I couldn't agree with you more.

Professor, you always crack me up! LAWD LAWD LAWD!

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[tickledpink]

I am so disappointed. Yes, he's human, but ministers must realize the weight of their actions. There are so many people out there that refuse to go to church, that call the church a "hypocrite" house that chritians must be very careful in what we do. If we don't then we drive away the very people that we're trying to save. . Yes, I do believe that this was strategically planned (revealing the information) however, this is another reason why we should be more careful.

On another note, I am praying for his wife. I know she must be going through alot of pain right now.

And finally, as someone mentioned before, what about this woman that he committed adultry with. What kind of woman would have sex with - not only a married man- but a married Reverend. The Charlotte Observer has a picture of the 2 of them at the White House. I have the picture, but haven't had much success posting it (it keeps showing up as a little "x".


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[This message has been edited by tickledpink (edited January 19, 2001).]

[AKA2D '91]

Originally posted by tickledpink:

The Charlotte Observer has a picture of the 2 of them at the White House. I have the picture, but haven't had much success posting it (it keeps showing up as a little "x".

She was there with him WHILE SHE WAS PREGNANT!

[The Original Ape]

RUN JESSE!!~!

[Ideal08]

Originally posted by AKA2D '91:
OHhhhhhhhhhhh Soror...

You don't believe in role models?

Going back to your statement that you don't have role models, now, why was it that you went to college, wanted to become an AKA, or wanted to live a "certain" life? I am only being curious. Again, Soror, you have the right to your opinion about this.

It's not that I don't believe in "leaders", I just don't believe in role models. I think it's because my mother was constantly telling me that I can only depend on Monique, other people will only disappoint you. So for that reason, I never truly looked up to anyone. As far as why I went to college, it seriously wasn't an option for me. I knew I was going to college in 5th grade. I went to college to have a better life than my parents had and to be able to provide a better life for my children. And as far as having a "certain life," I could have said growing up that I wanted certain "things" that someone else may have had. But never, "I want to have a life like his/hers." It's not that I don't think that people can "lead" you in a certain direction, I do, I call that guidance. But I don't emulate people. I can understand someone saying, "I want to be as good a nurse as Mary," or, "I want to play basketball as well as Michael Jordan." What I don't understand is when people say, "I want to be like Mary when I grow up," or "I wanna be like Mike." I don't want to be like anyone. When people look at role models, for lack of a better term, I think that they should focus on the attributes of that person instead of the person themselves. I'm trying to explain this as best I can, but I don't think I'm doing a very good job at it! Sorry!! I think it's fine to have people in our communities that offer guidance and leadership (parents, teachers, aunts, uncles, etc.) and instill good solid morals and values into our children. It is by those standards that we "should" live by. Instead, we live by what people do. I also understand that you should lead by example. But if we stop believing in people, and believe in our morals and values, things like what happened with Jesse would have us so disappointed. We should never be so disappointed in human beings. Our children should be able to say, "Adultery is wrong," not, "Oh no, Jesse committed adultery, I don't know what to believe now." That's what happens. You look up to someone for so many years. Then something foul happens, and you're stuck, mentally exhausted, trying to figure out what went wrong, how could this have happend, so disappointed, and confused on what to believe. When you look up to your role models, you tend to emulate them and their actions. That is where the problem lies. We shouldn't be emulating ANYONE. We shouldn't want to be like anyone but CHRIST.

Ok, I think I came up with a better word. Mentor. I can hang with mentor. Someone to show you the ropes and guide you through. You don't necessarily have to look up to that person, but you can appreciate their wisdom and their experiences, and learn from them. You don't have to want to be like them or look up to them or emulate them. That way if they slip, you can walk away with what you learned and leave the disappointment behind!

Did that help explain it? Sorry this was so long, but yall know I'm long-winded!

[DST Love]

Originally posted by tickledpink:
I am so disappointed. Yes, he's human, but ministers must realize the weight of their actions. There are so many people out there that refuse to go to church, that call the church a "hypocrite" house that chritians must be very careful in what we do. If we don't then we drive away the very people that we're trying to save. . Yes, I do believe that this was strategically planned (revealing the information) however, this is another reason why we should be more careful.

I couldn't agree more. No one's perfect, but there is something called honesty and integrity. He not only made sacred vows to God to "forsake all others", I'm sure he also made vows to God upon accepting his call to the ministry. Besides, if he was that unhappy in his marriage, then you leave before it gets to this point. No one can ever be too angry with someone who tells the truth from the beginning and before too much damage is done.

[DELTABRAT]

He took her to the White House but with several other staffers of the Rainbow Coalition, right? I saw the picture and I thought at first he took JUST her and introduced her as his baby mama. But apparently it was business and it was like 6 people. Old girl was all gushy inside because she was preggers with Jesse's baby, etc.

She is a scholar who taught at GA University. Wrote a book on Jesse for publication and wrote her doctoral dissertation on him.

Mrs. Jackson was pissed and went to tell the girl off.

All I can say is "I'm sorry Ms. Jackson (OOH!) I am for real!"