Skinny people (Normal girls represent!)

[Dionysus]

I think society is more harder on short guys than heavy guys.

[Shine]

Ok, seriously. No one wants to hear about how much it sucks to have a small ass, or how you can eat and eat and eat and not gain a pound.

Yes, it makes people jealous, but no it doesn't make people admire you. It just makes you annoying and smug.

[Peaches-n-Cream]

Life is difficult if you are overweight whether you are a man or a woman. I do think that the standards are ridiculously high for a woman. I mean that a man can be twenty pounds over his ideal weight and society doesn't judge them as harshly as a woman who is twenty pounds over her ideal weight. I can attest to this as a woman who has weighed twenty pounds more than I do now.

[DeltaSigStan]

Originally posted by Shine
Ok, seriously. No one wants to hear about how much it sucks to have a small ass, or how you can eat and eat and eat and not gain a pound.

Yes, it makes people jealous, but no it doesn't make people admire you. It just makes you annoying and smug.

Exactly

[LeslieAGD]

Originally posted by Dionysus
I think society is more harder on short guys than heavy guys.

I would agree with that, unless the guy is unattractive and heavy...then he's really screwed.

[DeltaSigStan]

Originally posted by Cream
Life is difficult if you are overweight whether you are a man or a woman. I do think that the standards are ridiculously high for a woman. I mean that a man can be twenty pounds over his ideal weight and society doesn't judge them as harshly as a woman who is twenty pounds over her ideal weight. I can attest to this as a woman who has weighed twenty pounds more than I do now.

Yeah, maybe it's just my chapter. I don't seem to get it as much as I do from them and my family.

[Shine]

Originally posted by DeltaSigStan
Exactly

Yup. I could eat the recommended 2,000 calories a day and I would gain a lot of weight.

I can eat 1,500 calories a day and maintain status quo.

To lose weight I have to limit to at least 1,200 or 1,000 calories.

So hearing thin people talk about how they can eat 5,000 calories a day makes me sick, and really makes me not want to talk to them.

Because people rib you for being thin does not mean you identify with people who get made fun of for being overweight.

People don't yell "Hey skinny girl!" out of their car windows at thin people on the street.

But people do yell "Hey fatty!" out their window at me at least 3 times a week.

So no, your being a size 2 and having friends joke with you about your thinness does not help you identify with people who are overweight. It doesn't make people prejudiced against you. It doesn't make people think you're disgusting.

So really, stop trying to make like you identify with people that are above size 10.

Damn.

What you're going through isn't hardship.

Me working out six days a week and eating a strict diet, but still having people assume I'm a lazy twinkie eater is hardship.

[sugar and spice]

Originally posted by SSS1365
That doesn't make it any less offensive to hear people say things against women who *aren't* above a size 6, especially those of us who do not TRY to be that way! Honestly I don't think this entire topic is appropriate if you want to say our responses are inappropriate.

I've never been actually fat, but I struggled with anorexia in high school, and let me tell you something -- being teased for being skinny is NEVER as mean-spirited or as prevalent as being teased for being fat, and the outcome is almost never the same. I know so many girls who were seriously scarred for being called fat when they were younger -- even if they weren't fat at all, they came to believe it. I don't know a single girl who has ever been seriously affected by jokes about her slimness. Is it a mean thing to call someone anorexic when they're not? Sure. But does it have anywhere near the long-term ramifications or the spitefulness of being teased because you're fat? No. Not even close.

Every time a skinny person complains about how they "can't gain weight," I get annoyed, and I know I'm not the only one. To me, that's like celebrities who complain about how "fame isn't all it's cracked up to be." Come on . . . a million people would kill to be in your place -- why the hell are you complaining? It's the same thing with really skinny girls. So you can't gain weight? So what. Nobody out there is calling you "a beached whale." Do people stare disapprovingly at you when you eat in public? Can you not shop in Banana Republic and Express because they don't carry your size? Do you have perfect strangers come up to you and say, "You should be ashamed of yourself"? Give me a break. The worst thing people say to skinny girls (and trust me, I've been there) is "you look anorexic" or "you're way too bony" -- both of which are looks that are emulated in the world of fashion, music, movies, and TV.

I said responding to her thread that way was inappropriate because it was uncalled for. Like I said before, if you're going to complain about how you're too skinny and you can't gain weight, that's fine. Most girls, even the size 0s and 2s, have something they hate about their bodies. That's perfectly legitimate. But complain about it in a different post, because that's not what this one is about. It is really frustrating to be upset about your weight and then read a bunch of complaints from skinny girls who say things like "Wah wah, I have no hips. I eat and eat and eat but I don't gain a pound! I weight exactly as much as most girls would kill to weigh and I'm still not happy!" I'm not saying that's not necessarily a legitimate complaint -- maybe you ARE too skinny. But it's not what girls who are above a size 10 (or for some girls, above a size 6 or even a 4) want to hear.

[MSSTCY1]

My best friend is the perfect example of someone who is disgustingly skinny, eats as much as she wants, but cannot gain weight. Unlike people who would die to look like her, she is depressed about being that way. When we were in high school she was called down to see a counselor all the time b/c the school administrators were convinced that she was anorexic. From being friends with her for so long, I know that there are skinny people out there who are just as unhappy with their weight as heavier people are.

funny story about her though: we were at the bar one night and she was talking to this guy. He was like can I buy you a shot, a drink, or a hamburger?

[DeltaSigStan]

Originally posted by Shine

Me working out six days a week and eating a strict diet, but still having people assume I'm a lazy twinkie eater is hardship.

OMG is that the sad truth. I excerise every day and have changed my diet somewhat and I'm still overwight, and everyone still thinks I'm "ummotivated".

It's not cool when automatically you're blamed when food is gone, or when everyone else is getting seconds and you're the only one who's called on it for doing so, or when the first thing out of your relative's mouthes is "have you eaten yet?" (although that may be a Filipino thing), or when you have to swim with a shirt on.

I agree, sometimes the way you carry yourself (no pun intended) can overshadow (again, no pun intended) your weight when it comes to the opposite sex, but it doesn't make your life any easier. Insults, though not neccesarily mean-spirited, hurt just a little bit more because you're such an easy target and you get it just a little bit more.

All I'm saying is, I'm pretty sure a waif doesn't get the same amount and same stength of insults that someone with a gut does.

[Shine]

Originally posted by sugar and spice
I've never been actually fat, but I struggled with anorexia in high school, and let me tell you something -- being teased for being skinny is NEVER as mean-spirited or as prevalent as being teased for being fat.

You and I are right on the same page here.

Take a read at what I said above. You were just nicer about it than me.

I don't have a problem with thin people. In-fact, I wish I looked like that. I would also NEVER say anything derrogatory or rude about a thin person's weight. I've been known to give a gentle rib here or there about wishing I was so thin, but I have never been outright cruel. I would never be.

This thread isn't about hating on thin people, whether they are thin naturally or by hard work.

It's about trying to identify with someone in a world where all you are shown is thinness and beauty, and you are expected to uphold those ideals. It's about trying to identify in a world where if you aren't perfectly thin, you're considered a lesser person.

[Shine]

Originally posted by DeltaSigStan
OMG is that the sad truth. I excerise every day and have changed my diet somewhat and I'm still overwight, and everyone still thinks I'm "ummotivated".

It's not cool when automatically you're blamed when food is gone, or when everyone else is getting seconds and you're the only one who's called on it for doing so, or when the first thing out of your relative's mouthes is "have you eaten yet?" (although that may be a Filipino thing), or when you have to swim with a shirt on.

I agree, sometimes the way you carry yourself (no pun intended) can overshadow (again, no pun intended) your weight when it comes to the opposite sex, but it doesn't make your life any easier. Insults, though not neccesarily mean-spirited, hurt just a little bit more because you're such an easy target and you get it just a little bit more.

All I'm saying is, I'm pretty sure a waif doesn't get the same amount and same stength of insults that someone with a gut does.

It's sad and true.

I have changed myself immensely. I cut out all refined sugar, meat, fried food, alcohol, and pretty much only eat fruits, vegetables, grains, and tofu stuff for protein. And I work out more than all 3 of my roommates combined.

But people still assume stuff about me.

Last Christmas break, one of my roommates brought like 24 cookies back for us all to eat. They were gone overnight. Two of my roommates accosted me the next day and told me it was so rude of me to have eaten all the cookies and not left any for everyone else.

I had two cookies.

They kept harassing me about my denial of it until the 4th roommate (and the thinnest) came home and told us she had eaten like 15 of them while watching TV after we all had gone to bed.

They didn't even apologize to me.

I carry myself well. My weight doesn't look that bad on me compared to most. I know I'm sexy and beautiful. But it's REALLY hard to carry myself that way when I have assholes yelling insults at me out of cars, and my own friends accusing me of stealing food.

[swissmiss04]

I was at most "curvy" (think Catherine Zeta Jones). Now I'm fairly thin, but still curvy. I'm happy for the most part. Has anyone caught this month's Glamour? It's a "body love" issue. Ironically there's a bunch of diet aid ads, one of which is pissing me off. The "before" picture couldn't be heavier than a 4 or a 6. No joke. And please don't hate on the anorexic girls. My best friend just got out of rehab for a serious serious struggle w/ anorexia. She's not one of those bitchy annoying girls who everyone hates. She just grew up in a stressful environment and was expected to be completely perfect. It completely was not her choice. But I'll tell ya... life's too short to starve. Eat!!! Diets come and go, but good food? That lasts.

[LaDolceVita03]

I love my body. I'm 5'5", 145 lbs. of muscle, hips, and booty (not butt.....booty)!! In fact, my booty keeps me in a size 8-10 when my waist and upper body can fit a 6 (think J. Lo in her Fly Girls days). I would eat all day if I could, but I try to be good and work out 2 or 3 times a week to stay toned. I do think that most of it has to do with genetics. My mom and I could be twins--we're the exact same from head to toe.

I have definitely had my days where I've hated my hips, but what woman hasn't. Find your best feature and accentuate it. Don't hide your curves--that's how we can tell women from men. Do what makes you feel good, screw everyone else.

[James]

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