R. Kelly Fla. Child Porn Charges Dropped

[nikki1920]

With respect to the Aaliyah thing, the marriage was not legal b/c she lied about her age on the marriage certificate, and she was underage, thus her parents would not sign for it. I respect him for not talking about it, but he probably signed a confidentiality agreement when all of that happened anyways, and couldn't talk about it anyway.

I think the BET interview was a bad move, seeing as how he was unable to really say anything based on the advice of his lawyers. I hope he comes out a better man for this and will tell his side of the story (re: childhood abuse, etc.) so that we can understand why he did the things he did.

Again, my problem is with those people who KNEW he was abusing children and said NOTHING!!!! Yes, he knew better, but did it anyway, but don't ppl have the responsibility to tell if they see someone doing wrong?

This whole situation is a HOT MESS!!!

[korkscru]

Originally posted by candygirl
Korkscru you got me over here cracking up. LOL "shucking and jiving".

It was only a matter of time before his activities caught up with him. I really want to know who had it out for him becuase they knew exactly what they were doing. I want to know why it's taken so long for him to be indicted on the 21 acts of child pornography and statutory rape. The sad part about is that I don't think he's going to jail. I think he'll have to pay a fine and maybe have a probation. If he does go to prision he'll be playing golf and swimming laps in a pool. I don't think they'll put him with the common folk.

Candygirl, you sound kinda like my friend. She too THOUGHT that he would probably get off...UNTIL...she heard the news on the radio this afternoon. Candygirl, I'm telling you, THEY ARE GOING TO MAKE AN EXAMPLE OUT OF HIM (and you can BELIEVE that). With all of this mess going on with the exploitation and sexual abuse of children, R. Kelly picked the WRONG time to upset someone enough for them to get that tape out. Like I said before, he's the FLAVA OF THE MONTH (or should I say the past FEW months). According to what I've read (in more than one article), the prosecutors are going ahead with this with EVERYTHING that they have. They have FIFTY witnesses identifying the girl and R. Kelly in the video. On top of THAT, they have witnesses who are willing to testify that R. Kelly and this girl were messing around. Honey, people don't mind spilling their guts about what they know when it comes to saving their own butts. R. Kelly has had this arrogant kind of attitude (in MY opinion) for quite some time. And I'm willing to bet that he's made quite a few enemies along the way (that's obvious because SOMEBODY was mad enough to give that tape to that newspaper, right?). People think that he's going to get off because he has all of this money, these TERRIFIC lawyers (who aren't so terrific because he's in this mess), and he's famous, right? NOT!!!! As a matter of fact, the fact that he's rich and famous seems to be working more AGAINST him than FOR him. Now I don't think that he's going to get the full 15 years, but I DO believe that he's going to get some time. All of his STUFF is going to come out during his trial. Heck, I can just see those white people's faces when they get a taste of his songs like "Feelin' on Your Booty" or "Bump and Grind" or "Your Body's Calling" because the only songs that they probably know about are "I Believe I Can Fly" or the song that he wrote for the movie "Ali".

I'll tell you what I told my friend, after this mess is over with and he serves his time, R. Kelly is going to end up the Minister of Music at some church.

[Steeltrap]

On another Web site I belong to, someone alleged that Rra had sex with Joumana Kidd. That's Jason Kidd's wife, BTW. Another correspondent said: "Wow, she's got great taste in men - a wife beater and a man who likes to pee on you. I want her sloppy seconds."

[candygirl]

Korkscru, you really have me cracking up not because this is a laughing matter but because you say(type) everything with such conviction. After my post I too saw the news and wanted to change my tune. You're right about a lot of things. Your statement about him becoming the mininster of music at some church is pretty funny. For a moment I thought, who would let this man direct any church choir. Then I thought about Rev. Meeks. Although Rev. Meeks has been his spiritual supporter I don't even think he would let Kelley direct his choir.

Rev. James T. Meeks is my mother's pastor and will soon become mine when I go home and join the church. I have much respect for him but his involvement with Robert Kelley is bothering me a little. He's a wonderful man and a great preacher and teacher among other things.
At his Wednesday evening service the night before Kelley had the interview on BET, Meeks spoke about the situation. He knew that he would be judged for what he was doing but he felt that he needed to do it. He stated that as a man of God he has know right to judge Kelley but offer spiritual guidance and support. Basically he said that it was the Christain thing to do.

What does everyone think about Rev. Meek's involvement in this scandal?

[korkscru]

Well, Candygirl, as a Christian, I can certainly see Rev. Meeks' point of view. I mean, if ANYONE in ANY situation can't go to their pastor, bishop, etc., then who else can they go to. I think that people are getting the wrong idea about Rev. Meeks' stance on this matter. R. Kelly is not so much dealing with MAN'S conviction, but HIS OWN. I believe that Rev. Meeks is totally against what R. Kelly has done and I don't believe that he's supporting R. Kelly in any of his lies. I just believe that Rev. Meeks is trying to deal with R. Kelly on a SPIRITUAL level. Hey, it really doesn't matter what WE think of R. Kelly right about now. The truth of the matter is that all he has to do is REPENT, don't engage in that kind of behavior again, and GOD will forgive him. Now that doesn't mean that MAN will forgive him. Nor does it mean that he will bypass MAN'S punishment for his crime. But if he REPENTS (and believe me, he KNOWS the WORD of GOD or else he wouldn't have gone to Rev. Meeks in the first place), then God will make things right for him. Heck, if I were R. Kelly, I would just want God to make everything alright. There is absolutely NOTHING that Rev. Meeks (or anyone else for that matter) can do for him right now. ONLY GOD can make this messy situation into a positive one for R. Kelly. All WE can do is PRAY, PRAY, PRAY for him (and that's what I'm doing, believe it or not). I said that R. Kelly would probably end up the Minister of Music at some church, not necessarily to be funny (although it WAS), but because this is going to be his TESTIMONY!!!!! If he chooses to allow God to take control of his life, then he is going to WITNESS to people about this experience. Who knows, maybe some time in the future, R. Kelly will end up being the next John P. Key or Hezekiah Walker. He SURELY has the talent to do so. R. Kelly has a true CALLING on his life and God is trying to get through to him before it's too late.

AAALLLL GLORY BE TO GOD!!!!!!

[TLAW]

Korkscru, I really don't think he will be treated with any legitimacy fater this. I am in no position to judge, but I refuse to put him in the category of Hezekiah, John P., or even Kirk, who does a lot of suspect stuff.
I almost feel sorry for the man, because he needs treatment. To get this treatment, he needs to accept the fact that he has a problem, show remorse, and pay the price. I don't think he should be let off lightly, and I'm somewhat disgusted by those that say that he is not to blame, that he is a victim in all this. How? The FBI authentication of the tape is just a hoax? Can we be real?

[korkscru]

Oh, TLaw, I agree with you 1913%. That is what I meant when I said that MAN won't be that forgiving nor will he go unpunished. I agree that he is sick. Now, TLaw, I KNOW that you've read my previous posts, right? I know how you feel about these people saying that R. Kelly is being "framed" or these girls are "fast" or people just want some of his money. ALL of that mess is CRAPOLLA to me. Just as I said before, HE was the "adult" in the matter and as an "adult" he had a MORAL OBLIGATION to say no to those "fast" young girls even IF they were the ones pursing him (which I highly doubt).

Now as far as his being the next John P. or Hezekiah Walker is concerned, maybe I went a little too far. I guess what I was trying to say is that he has the ability and talent to become a great MUSICAL asset to some church some day. I'm saying that he will more than likely have SOMEWHAT of a chance to redeem himself, but not to the extent that most people would think. If so, I'm thinking that he'll be more BEHIND THE SCENES or something like that. But I do feel that R. Kelly's light has "flickered" out.

My husband and I were talking about this tonight and we were kinda comparing the amount of PUBLICITY to that of other celebrity scandals such as the O.J. Simpson scandal. We agreed that, although R. Kelly's situation has gotten him a spot on CBS This Morning with Jane Clayson and other major news networks, it's not QUITE as big as O.J.'s situation was. I told my husband that I think that, although I wouldn't want EITHER title, if I had to choose, I'd rather be known as a murderer than a molester. What do you guys think?

[librasoul22]

Dannng. That question is HARD, korkscru!!!!! I don't know man. Murderer or molester?? For real, like this is the toughest question I have pondered in quite some time.

I GUESS you are right. I would rather be known as a murderer. LOL. It is hard for me to say that because I am SO laid back that I can't really picture killing someone. But I do suppose that in the heat of some moment I could kill someone before I would ever under ANY circumstance molest a child. That is just unfathomable to me.

[TLAW]

This is kinda sick, but call me a murderer! I feel you on what you said. Maybe this'll give him the opportunity to redeem himself spiritually.
I am tempted to agree that his time seems to be ending. You cannot do the things he has done and go free, and as was said, his fame seems to be working against him. OJ might be better off when it is all said and done. Dang, Rra, dang, dang, dang. I heard that they are so confident it's going to stick that the DAs are already deciding what type of plea-bargaining, if any, they'd partake in. They seem to have this one sewn pretty tight, even without the testimony of the little girl.

[korkscru]

Well, yall I see it like this. People are more apt to get over the fact that you murdered someone rather than the fact that you molested, exploited, or abused (physically or sexually) a CHILD. Now BOTH crimes are unfathomable to me also. But I guess that I would haveto say that murder is like the lesser of two evils. Molesting, exploiting, and sexually or physically abusing children is like TABOO to MOST people regardless of race, relgion, gender, etc. I just know that I wouldn't want to be labeled as a child molester under ANY circumstance whatsoever. Now Librasoul22, I'm not going to say that I WOULDN'T kill anyone. It all depends on the circumstances. If someone is trying to kill ME, then I'm going for the JUGULAR. I'm also a MOTHER and WIFE. Now if someone is trying to harm or harms my family (more specifically my CHILDREN...my husband can more than likely defend himself), then it's NO HOLDS BARRED!!!

Hey, TLaw, MANY people are starting to change their minds about what's going to happen to R. Kelly. I noticed in one article that his lawyers are now saying that they are going to prove that THE GIRL IN THE VIDEO IS NOT A MINOR. Now my thoughts are this: If he's saying that he's not the man in the video, WHY would his lawyers be focusing on whether the girl is a minor or not. I mean it's like they're NOW saying, "Okay, it IS R. Kelly in the video, but we're going to prove that he wasn't messing with a 14-year-old."
Now what's THAT all about?

ANOTHER thing is that I noticed on the AKA forum that there are quite a few people who are upset that Sparkle was the one who turned over the tape. Well, I'll say THIS: Let's say Sparkle (OR Aliyah's uncle) WAS the one who turned in the tape. I believe that someone HAD to help her get to the tape in the FIRST place. I think that SOMEONE in R. Kelly's CLOSE, CLOSE circle of "friends" had to actually get their hands on that tape. I feel this way because, to MY knowledge, Sparkle and Aliyah's uncle were not up in R. Kelly's home like that. They didn't have access to his stuff. It HAD to be someone who was in and out of his home on a REGULAR basis. It HAD to be someone who KNEW where he kept stuff because I doubt that he kept these tapes with his other tapes or on the table in the family room (if you know what I mean). It HAD to be someone who would be able to get to his stuff without suspicion. Another thought is that it HAD to be someone who KNEW that he was doing these young girls. I don't think that Sparkle (or Aliyah's uncle) actually KNEW that he was messing with young girls. And even if they DID know about it, I doubt that they knew that he was making tapes of his encounters. SOMEONE had to give Sparkle, Alyiah's uncle, or WHOEVER turned that tape in the scoop on what was going on. I REALLY feel that it was one of his "BOYZ". What do you guys think?

[candygirl]

Korkscru, to answer your first question, I'd rather be a murderer than a molestor. It sad to say but our society is so violent as it is one would be more likely to be forgiven for such a crime. Now molestation is something different. As you've stated it's considered taboo to do such a thing. I wouldn't dream of doing either regardless but if I had to choose it would be murder.

As far as who set R. Kelly up, I don't know. It very well could be one of his friends. If it was one of his friends how did they find the tapes. I would hope that he wouldn't brag about such a thing to his friends but hey, you never know.

As we continue to discuss the matter, I feel more and more sorry for R. Kelly. I'm not condoning his actions by any means. but he's being judge by his peers, his fans, and the courts when the only judge should be our Creator.

God help him, is all I can say.

[korkscru]

Well guys and gals, I just saw the tape of R. Kelly for the first time. All I can say is that my head REALLY hurts and I just can't believe what I saw. I don't usually watch such kinds of tapes, but I guess that my curiosity got the best of me this time. IT'S HIM!!! IT'S HIM!!! IT IS DEFINITELY HIM!!!

[candygirl]

Originally posted by korkscru
I'll tell you what I told my friend, after this mess is over with and he serves his time, R. Kelly is going to end up the Minister of Music at some church.

I guess your prophecy was dead on. R. Kelly sang The Worlds Greatest, to a graduating kindergarten class at Salem Baptist Church of Chicago. This is Rev. Meeks church. MTV just reported on it at stated something about R. Kelly being in violation because he was in the presence of minors.

[nikki1920]

The order for him to stay away from kids not related to him was only valid in FLA, not IL. So he wasn't in violation.

Those kids are too young for him anyway. oops!! Did I just type that...?

[korkscru]

Well Ladies, I read an article that talked about Rev. Meeks' involvement. According to this article, the reporter talked to the Rev. durng a telephone interview and he's saying that he saw no problem with R. Kelly singing to those kids. I BEG TO DIFFER!!! He should be focusing on his defense instead of perpetrating at some church function. But to each his own...I guess, right?

But get this. I read ANOTHER article written by the SAME reporter and he said that R. Kelly did/does not treat his immediate family very well (this INCLUDED his mother). According to the article, long after R. Kelly became a millionaire, his mother was STILL driving a hooptie which she had to HOT WIRE in order to start. The reporter also said that one of R. Kelly's brothers said that he (the brother) has NEVER visited R. Kelly's home (you know, the one where the videos were taped---by the way, he SOLD that home for a reported 2 point something million shortly after the video came out). But this final thing was like the CLINCHER for me. How about the reporter wrote that R. Kelly's sister was R. Kelly's HOUSEKEEPER for a while and he paid her a WHOOPING...get this $400.00 per week. Now what in the WORLD was this NEGRO thinking?

I tell yall, I'm like TOO THROUGH with R. Kelly right about now, okay?