Phi Kappa Psi at U of Virginia Voluntarily Suspends Activities

[33girl]

If a woman farts, plays video games, has male friends, and loves sports it should be because that's what she wants to do.

That's what I meant I disagreed with in the quote - assuming that no woman really likes those things and she's putting on a show to act "cool."

Not only that, I think it's kind of denigrating to assume that men (of all ages) can't see through bullshit.

[DrPhil]

Originally Posted by 33girl

That's what I meant I disagreed with in the quote - assuming that no woman really likes those things and she's putting on a show to act "cool."

I don't think that is the full point of the quote.

Some women are genuine and some women are perpetrating. Yet even the women who genuinely do those things (not because of a man) should not feel obligated to subscribe to this: "Cool Girls never get angry; they only smile in a chagrined, loving manner and let their men do whatever they want. Go ahead, shit on me, I don’t mind, I’m the Cool Girl."

I don't believe all men define "cool woman" in this manner. I do believe most men want some version.

[pinksequins]

33Girl, I disagree.

[1964Alum]

http://wtvr.com/2014/11/22/universit...omment-page-1/

http://wtvr.com/2014/11/21/slut-walk...y-of-virginia/

[exlurker]

Originally Posted by 1964Alum

http://wtvr.com/2014/11/22/universit...omment-page-1/

http://wtvr.com/2014/11/21/slut-walk...y-of-virginia/

Also:

Very much in line with the links 1964alum posted, here's the Statement from the president of UVA, posted by the Washington Post:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/local/...3ef_story.html

Two small excerpts from ^^:
“Beginning immediately, I am suspending all fraternal organizations and associated social activities until January 9th . . . . “

“On Tuesday, the Board of Visitors will meet to discuss the University’s policies and procedures regarding sexual assault as well as the specific, recent allegations.”

[1964Alum]

Hopefully something constructive will come of this.

Excerpted:

Inter-Fraternity Council President Tommy Reid, a fourth-year College student, issued a statement shortly after Sullivan’s email. In it, he emphasized a mission of action by fraternities to act as primary agents for change in sexual assault.
“This is a temporary, short-term action that will ultimately benefit our University and our community in the long-term, not an impulsive move to blame rape on fraternities,” he said in an email. “The temporary suspension grants our fraternity system time to develop substantive and actionable solutions for the future.”
Reid said sexual assault was not just a fraternity problem, but a University-wide problem.
“At times, our organizations are placed with a disproportionate share of the blame for sexual misconduct,” he said. “The IFC recognizes that sexual assault is a problem in fraternities; we also recognize that we can be catalysts for the solution. Banning fraternities will not solve the complicated problem of rape in our society.”


http://www.cavalierdaily.com/section/news

[1964Alum]

And from the ladies. I am very happy to see them step up to the plate and participate in finding solutions to this very serious problem on the UVA campus. I am eager to see what proposals they come up with.

http://www.cavalierdaily.com/article...lar-of-support

[1964Alum]

This is not going to go away. Our governor and both US senators have expressed outrage over what has been going on there for years and years. One of our senators has three college aged daughters who are infuriated. Alumni of the university have gotten involved, and one has established a legal defense fund for any rape victim.

Our daughter is a professor at UVA and reports that the faculty are also joining the effort to put an end to this kind of criminal behavior on campus. While UVA is not my alma mater, I am a 13th generation Virginian with deep roots in the Old Dominion.

Hopefully UVA can create a model that is both effective and which can serve as a template for other colleges and universities where campus rape is rampant.

[DeltaBetaBaby]

Originally Posted by 1964Alum

One of our senators has three college aged daughters who are infuriated.

I sure hope your senator is able to see why this is a problem without having college-aged daughters.

[1964Alum]

Originally Posted by DeltaBetaBaby

I sure hope your senator is able to see why this is a problem without having college-aged daughters.

Of course he would. He's actually a very decent man. But I'm happy that his daughters are bringing pressure to bear on him.

Bill he introduced: http://www.warner.senate.gov/public/...b-385a02e2bceb

The bill: http://www.scribd.com/doc/235449362/CASA-One-Pager

[cinder1965]

From reading the RS article, it sounds like the culture of sexually assaulting women is so deep seeded in the fraternities at UVA that it may be best to abolish the Greek system. I was physically ill after a reading it. This has been going on for decades and clearly there are no adults in charge who have any kind of leadership to address this matter. Good grief, how many more women have to be assaulted? I love my sorority but I love humanity more. This sounds like a lost cause.

[KDCat]

Originally Posted by cinder1965

From reading the RS article, it sounds like the culture of sexually assaulting women is so deep seeded in the fraternities at UVA that it may be best to abolish the Greek system. I was physically ill after a reading it. This has been going on for decades and clearly there are no adults in charge who have any kind of leadership to address this matter. Good grief, how many more women have to be assaulted? I love my sorority but I love humanity more. This sounds like a lost cause.

As the Rolling Stone article pointed out, UVa is also the place that ignored incidents between Yeardley Love and her boyfriend until the guy murdered her. The coaches knew about his behavior towards her.

UVa is a place that allows privileged kids to do whatever the hell they want.

[als463]

Originally Posted by cinder1965

From reading the RS article, it sounds like the culture of sexually assaulting women is so deep seeded in the fraternities at UVA that it may be best to abolish the Greek system. I was physically ill after a reading it. This has been going on for decades and clearly there are no adults in charge who have any kind of leadership to address this matter. Good grief, how many more women have to be assaulted? I love my sorority but I love humanity more. This sounds like a lost cause.

For all this stuff to be going on, I agree that there must not be too much leadership helping out. Don't these chapters on campus have advisors? I know very little about UVA and the campus culture but, I feel like having good advisors who have their fingers on the pulse of Greek Life there would be useful. This whole situation is just sad and I hate to see all of Greek Life get painted like this.

[ShadeTree]

Originally Posted by als463

For all this stuff to be going on, I agree that there must not be too much leadership helping out. Don't these chapters on campus have advisors? I know very little about UVA and the campus culture but, I feel like having good advisors who have their fingers on the pulse of Greek Life there would be useful. This whole situation is just sad and I hate to see all of Greek Life get painted like this.

Ah, the role of advisors. That topic could definitely be its own thread!

Finding and keeping well trained advisors is certainly a challenge for many organizations. And, the Fraternity and Sorority Life staffs at many schools are entry level student affairs professionals who are often inexperienced and unprepared to deal with this issue. I recently called one FSA about a sexual assault case and was told that they didn't really know much because the 'higher ups' were handling it.

[als463]

Originally Posted by ShadeTree

Ah, the role of advisors. That topic could definitely be its own thread!

Finding and keeping well trained advisors is certainly a challenge for many organizations. And, the Fraternity and Sorority Life staffs at many schools are entry level student affairs professionals who are often inexperienced and unprepared to deal with this issue. I recently called one FSA about a sexual assault case and was told that they didn't really know much because the 'higher ups' were handling it.

See, this is the reason that we as organizations need to really push alumni involvement. I always make sure to push that idea to members of my organization because strong alumni volunteers make strong advisors. How can we expect there to be alumni volunteers if we don't promote that Greek Life is more than just four years? I think my organization is doing a great job promoting it but, I'd like to see the NPC overall promote this idea of a lifetime commitment--if possible. The same goes for the other councils.