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12-04-2012, 03:34 PM
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* The same announcement said that upon the death of Philip, Edward will succeed to the title of Duke of Edinburgh.
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As long as Charles sticks with the plan
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12-04-2012, 03:38 PM
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As long as Charles sticks with the plan 
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True.
And I meant to point out too that Anne and Mark did not choose for their kids not be called prince and princess. Under the current rules, it is only children of the monarch's sons that are entitled to be called that.
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12-04-2012, 03:51 PM
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True.
And I meant to point out too that Anne and Mark did not choose for their kids not be called prince and princess. Under the current rules, it is only children of the monarch's sons that are entitled to be called that.
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I thought that Her Majesty offered Mark a title so that Philip and Zara would be titled but they turned it down?
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12-04-2012, 04:16 PM
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Okay good, that was my assumption but I lost track once it started getting away from QEII's territory. I would love to see this in family tree view! I need a process flow diagram 
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12-04-2012, 04:19 PM
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Hey MC, trivia question. What is the full title of Elizabeth?
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12-04-2012, 05:20 PM
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I thought that Her Majesty offered Mark a title so that Philip and Zara would be titled but they turned it down?
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That has been the widely-known rumor, though I don't know whether it was ever officially confirmed. Had he accepted a title, Philip and Zara would have been titled, but not as prince and princess. (But I see know that upthread you said "similar to Anne and Mark," so yes, I think the same concerns were at play.)
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Hey MC, trivia question. What is the full title of Elizabeth?
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I'm going to the Wiki for this one  :
- UK: Elizabeth the Second, by the Grace of God, of Great Britain, Ireland and the British Dominions beyond the Seas Queen, Defender of the Faith (Elizabeth II, Dei Gratia Magnae Britanniae, Hiberniae et terrarum transmarinarum quae in ditione sunt Britannica Regina, Fidei Defensor)
- Canada: Her Majesty Elizabeth the Second, by the Grace of God of the United Kingdom, Canada and Her other Realms and Territories Queen, Head of the Commonwealth, Defender of the Faith/Sa Majesté Elizabeth Deux, par la grâce de Dieu Reine du Royaume-Uni, du Canada et de ses autres royaumes et territoires, Chef du Commonwealth, Défenseur de la Foi
- Australia: Her Majesty Elizabeth the Second, by the Grace of God, Queen of Australia and Her other Realms and Territories, Head of the Commonwealth
- New Zealand: Her Majesty Elizabeth the Second, by the Grace of God Queen of New Zealand and Her Other Realms and Territories, Head of the Commonwealth, Defender of the Faith
- Antigua and Barbuda: Her Majesty Elizabeth the Second, by the Grace of God, Queen of Antigua and Barbuda and of Her other Realms and Territories, Head of the Commonwealth
- The Bahamas: Her Majesty Elizabeth the Second, by the Grace of God, Queen of the Commonwealth of The Bahamas and of Her other Realms and Territories, Head of the Commonwealth
- Barbados: Her Majesty Elizabeth the Second, by the Grace of God, Queen of Barbados and of Her other Realms and Territories, Head of the Commonwealth
- Belize: Her Majesty Elizabeth The Second, by the Grace of God, Queen of Belize and of Her Other Realms and Territories, Head of the Commonwealth
- Grenada: Her Majesty Elizabeth the Second, by the Grace of God, Queen of the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland and of Grenada and Her other Realms and Territories, Head of the Commonwealth
- Jamaica: Her Majesty Elizabeth the Second, by the Grace of God, Queen of Jamaica and of Her other Realms and Territories, Head of the Commonwealth
- Saint Kitts and Nevis: Her Majesty Elizabeth the Second, by the Grace of God, Queen of Saint Christopher and Nevis and of Her other Realms and Territories, Head of the Commonwealth
- Saint Lucia: Her Majesty Elizabeth the Second, by the Grace of God, Queen of Saint Lucia and of Her other Realms and Territories, Head of the Commonwealth
- Saint Vincent and the Grenadines: Her Majesty Elizabeth the Second, by the Grace of God, Queen of Saint Vincent and the Grenadines and of Her other Realms and Territories, Head of the Commonwealth
- Papua New Guinea: Her Majesty Elizabeth the Second, Queen of Papua New Guinea and of Her other Realms and Territories, Head of the Commonwealth
- Solomon Islands: Her Majesty Elizabeth the Second, by the Grace of God, Queen of the Solomon Islands and of Her other Realms and Territories, Head of the Commonwealth
- Tuvalu: Her Majesty Elizabeth the Second, by the Grace of God, Queen of Tuvalu and of Her other Realms and Territories, Head of the Commonwealth
Then in Guernsey and Jersey, she is Duke of Normandy, and on the Isle of Man she is Lord of Mann.
I so need a life.
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12-04-2012, 05:31 PM
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You forgot one. Also I would hate to be the herald at an event where all those countries are represented.
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12-04-2012, 05:37 PM
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You forgot one.
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LOL, not surprised. Who did I leave out?
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12-04-2012, 05:38 PM
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Duke of Lancaster
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12-04-2012, 05:41 PM
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YES! Thanks.
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Then in Guernsey and Jersey, she is Duke of Normandy, and on the Isle of Man she is Lord of Mann.
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I love that she is a Duke and Lord in addition to being a Queen.
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I so need a life.
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But then we would all be pitched from the age of enlightenment and into a dark, doomsday type place! Don't leave us hanging like that. Your people need you
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12-04-2012, 05:45 PM
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Duke of Lancaster
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Ah, yes. But while the Duchy of Lancaster has merged with the Crown and so Duke of Lancaster is a style to which she is entitled (and that is still used on some occasions in Lancaster), it is not part of her official style and title as Queen. Ditto with all of her honours (Garter, Thistle, Bath, etc.)
(Lancaster differs from Guernsey, Jersey and the Isle of Man as the latter three are not part of the United Kingdom, but rather are Crown Dependencies.)
And then there's the whole issue of her style and title in Scotland.
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This looks like the best place to put this:
http://www.theonion.com/articles/cut...t-of-me,30602/
Also, I'm really enjoying learning about all this, of which I have only the vaguest idea. I believe if/when Wills gets the throne he will be the first direct descendent of Charles II to do so? (I think I brought this up around the time of the wedding, but it was a long time ago, and I don't have a lot of trivia to spout off so I have to keep reusing.)
And by far the most hilarious/tongue-in-cheek names I've seen for the couple is Bill & Cathy Cambridge.
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12-04-2012, 05:58 PM
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And by far the most hilarious/tongue-in-cheek names I've seen for the couple is Bill & Cathy Cambridge.
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Ha!
I think if it's a boy they should name him Keith and if it's a girl, Brenda.
(20 points to anyone who gets the joke.)
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12-04-2012, 06:34 PM
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I think Cheryl sounds way better than Brenda.
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12-04-2012, 06:56 PM
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I think Cheryl sounds way better than Brenda.
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Ding! Ding! We have a winner!
Cheryl does sound better, but do they really need another Cheryl? I'd probably avoid Brian, too.
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