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Old 11-03-2011, 03:29 PM
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MysticCat's edit is appropriate even when knight_shadow's distinction was implied. We want to stay away from even the appearance of ranking concerns and experiences.
Of course. I was pointing out that even without the clarification, it was implied. Anyone who would view it differently is only looking for a fight.

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On that note, my chapter's experiences mirrored knight_shadow's post and it caused a lot of tension among some of the Greeks on my campus, including the idea that NPHC GLOs are not "real GLOs."
Co-sign for the chapters I advise. The OP really needs to understand this issue.
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Old 11-03-2011, 03:32 PM
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Anyone who would view it differently is only looking for a fight.
And we never get anybody like that here at GC.
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Old 11-03-2011, 03:33 PM
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And we never get anybody like that here at GC.
Calling it like I see it!
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Old 11-03-2011, 04:38 PM
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Of course. I was pointing out that even without the clarification, it was implied. Anyone who would view it differently is only looking for a fight.
Or looking for clarification. There are plenty of things on Greekchat that are technically implied, or assumed, but I respond because they need to be explicitly stated.

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Co-sign for the chapters I advise. The OP really needs to understand this issue.
He actually doesn't need to understand. LOL. He neither has to care nor understand. He can sit his behind down and make "so-and-so loves XYZ" for the OTHER sororities.
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Old 11-03-2011, 04:41 PM
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He actually doesn't need to understand. LOL. He neither has to care nor understand. He can sit his behind down and make "so-and-so loves XYZ" for the OTHER sororities.
My hopeful optimism was showing.
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Old 11-03-2011, 04:47 PM
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He actually doesn't need to understand. LOL. He neither has to care nor understand. He can sit his behind down and make "so-and-so loves XYZ" for the OTHER sororities.
The NPC groups would probably LOVE it. Although it does sound to me more like something a sorority would do than a fraternity.
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Old 11-03-2011, 06:32 PM
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This thread reminds me of how a couple years ago, Pitt was putting the NPHC groups in the doghouse for being "too small" without bothering to ask them (or their national headquarters) how they operate and why their size WASN'T a problem.
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Old 11-03-2011, 06:41 PM
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This thread reminds me of how a couple years ago, Pitt was putting the NPHC groups in the doghouse for being "too small" without bothering to ask them (or their national headquarters) how they operate and why their size WASN'T a problem.
There was a similar situation at my alma mater.

Every year, we had to submit a packet to Greek life to demonstrate that we were operating like "good GLOs." It was developed using DU's "standards of excellence" packet, though.

That meant that non-IFC/PHC organizations were docked points because there were sections about housing and other things that were only relevant to those organizations. It took several years for those sections to be removed.

Unfortunately, I still hear about NPHC/NALFO/etc organizations being held to exactly the same standards as their NIC/NPC counterparts, whether it's fair or not.
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Old 11-03-2011, 07:29 PM
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This thread reminds me of how a couple years ago, Pitt was putting the NPHC groups in the doghouse for being "too small" without bothering to ask them (or their national headquarters) how they operate and why their size WASN'T a problem.
Illinois requires at least three people to remain a registered student organization. That seems reasonable to me, and I can understand why a university would be hesitant to recognize a chapter with ONE person.
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Old 11-03-2011, 08:22 PM
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Illinois requires at least three people to remain a registered student organization. That seems reasonable to me, and I can understand why a university would be hesitant to recognize a chapter with ONE person.
I agree and a one member chapter is not ideal for any NPHC organization. A chapter below three members is actually relatively rare for active NPHC chapters. The national and regional/district HQs for all NPHC organizations have policies and practices in place to deal with chapters that are considered small, or smaller than the ideal, for that particular NPHC fraternity or sorority.

Also, having three members or less in an active chapter is more common for a small college/university than for a large school. It is extremely uncommon for a 30,000+ school unless it is a city-wide chapter or there have been chapter difficulties of some sort. That is why I would love to know which school the OP attends and whether BOTH NPHC chapters are as small as he claims.

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Old 11-04-2011, 02:15 AM
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Omega Psi Phi Fraternity, Inc.
1 Chapter Rank
1 Size
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Delta Sigma Theta Sorority, Inc.
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Alpha Kappa Alpha Sorority, Inc.
2 Chapter Rank
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It largely an AG school, 15% minority. Omega Psi Phi is also here, no data for them.

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Old 11-04-2011, 02:45 AM
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Hey bighost,
Don't you think it's a little contradictory of you to admittedly state you are uneducated about NPHC/Multicultural GLOs and then make claims about their members and organization practices?? And by the way, if your chapter LOVES or HEARTS these organizations our your campus why don't you go ask those members yourselves instead of coming on GC trying to get answers?!
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Old 11-04-2011, 05:18 AM
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Hey bighost,
Don't you think it's a little contradictory of you to admittedly state you are uneducated about NPHC/Multicultural GLOs and then make claims about their members and organization practices?? And by the way, if your chapter LOVES or HEARTS these organizations our your campus why don't you go ask those members yourselves instead of coming on GC trying to get answers?!
All of this.
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Old 11-04-2011, 09:05 AM
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That is why I would love to know which school the OP attends and whether BOTH NPHC chapters are as small as he claims.
Based on one of his first posts, he's a member of the Delta Eta Chapter of ATO. That means Colorado State. CSU's website confirms the three NPHC orgs he listed being there.
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Old 11-04-2011, 10:33 AM
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For instance: http://dstcentralregion.org/chapters/colorado-chapters/

There is a Tau Lambda chapter of DST that is listed as University of North Colorado. The Sorors at CSU are also listed as Tau Lambda chapter. This may be a core chapter.

http://www.baacc.colostate.edu/greek (this seems to include chapters that are city-wide and core chapters; and maybe some of this needs to be updated)

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