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Old 11-03-2010, 12:02 AM
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No, I am not intelligent enough to believe that.

Gay, bisexual, and even eventually transgender people pledge fraternities all the time. I was one of them. I faced homophobia before and after I joined. I love my fraternity no less and realize that it is the homophobic idiots who are wrong, not me.

As many gay Lambdas as there are, this chapter needs to be dechartered for even asking about orientation.

and LMAO for the rampant ignorance in this thread. I feel like Emily Litela was here.
LOL.

And whenever you talk about the homophobia that you face, only fools would say "you need to shut up because you knew what you were getting yourself into."

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I had a wonderful experience with an older NPHC fraternity member, I'll call him Bryan, who had to correct members of his graduate chapter who are much older in the fraternity than he is. They were making negative comments about applicants who were rumored to be homosexual. Bryan received some backlash but also received some phone calls from members thanking him. Running away (including hiding one's sexual orientation) just because it "makes sense" to some people never solves anything. There have always been homosexual members of fraternities and some of these men have been the biggest homophobes to hide their sexual orientation.
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Old 11-03-2010, 12:05 AM
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All the "cultural" fraternities/sororities at UCR have worse hazing than other organizations; it's really bad..
Maybe he should've joined Sig Ep, Lambda Chi, Pike, Delts, Phi Psi, or AEPi... they all have one or more gay/bi members in their fraternity and there aren't any problems there. Just saying.
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Old 11-03-2010, 12:09 AM
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All the "cultural" fraternities/sororities at UCR have worse hazing than other organizations; it's really bad..
Maybe he should've joined Sig Ep, Lambda Chi, Pike, Delts, Phi Psi, or AEPi... they all have one or more gay/bi members in their fraternity and there aren't any problems there. Just saying.
Really? Please learn about organizations outside of your council, refrain from posting hearsay, and rethink such statements.
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Old 11-03-2010, 12:34 AM
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Just saying.
Just don't.

If someone joined Sigma Kappa and was subjected to this sort of harassment and hazing, I wouldn't tell them that they should have joined somewhere else, but that our chapter were being homophobic idiots.
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Old 11-03-2010, 12:35 AM
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If he wasn't initiated why did he go to the induction ceremony? Is it common among LGLO's to show off their former pledges like this?
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Old 11-03-2010, 12:39 AM
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If he wasn't initiated why did he go to the induction ceremony? Is it common among LGLO's to show off their former pledges like this?
It sounds like he was watching the Salute as a general student member.
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Old 11-03-2010, 12:41 AM
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It sounds like he was watching the Salute as a general student member.
Check out the story, it's written like he was a participant and that 'failed' pledges were common participants. It struck me as strange too but I don't know enough about it to comment. Unless perhaps it was out of a desire to remain active for the next semester or something...
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Old 11-03-2010, 12:45 AM
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Check out the story, it's written like he was a participant and that 'failed' pledges were common participants. It struck me as strange too but I don't know enough about it to comment. Unless perhaps it was out of a desire to remain active for the next semester or something...
I agree, the story is poorly written, but when I reread it, I saw the section about him dropping. Dropped pledges don't participate in coming out shows/salutes. Those activities are held to show off newly initiated members.
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Old 11-03-2010, 01:04 AM
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You sure are hanging around in the bisexual isle alot

when you going to come out the closet fag
I do believe this is a sock puppet.

I miss the more amusing sock puppets.
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Old 11-03-2010, 01:05 AM
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You sure are hanging around in the bisexual isle alot

when you going to come out the closet fag
Oh, good. Can we ban you now?
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Old 11-04-2010, 12:04 AM
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If he wasn't initiated why did he go to the induction ceremony? Is it common among LGLO's to show off their former pledges like this?
That and being asked his sexual orientation on the app. is what me go hmmmmmm.
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Old 11-04-2010, 12:26 PM
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That and being asked his sexual orientation on the app. is what me go hmmmmmm.
Absolutely. I don't care if I was a raging heterosexual, seeing that on an application to join a GLO (or seeing it on ANY application for that matter) would tip me off to the fact that the S.S. Assholery was boarding.
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Old 11-04-2010, 12:38 PM
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Absolutely. I don't care if I was a raging heterosexual, seeing that on an application to join a GLO (or seeing it on ANY application for that matter) would tip me off to the fact that the S.S. Assholery was boarding.
Actually, it made me question the veracity of the post.
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Old 11-04-2010, 12:59 PM
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Actually, it made me question the veracity of the post.
Oh okay, I gotcha. I would hope that would be nonsense, but unfortunately too many times it isn't.
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Old 11-03-2010, 12:48 AM
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Unless it was a true probate which occurs while they are still "on line" and before the coming out show/salute. Perhaps he participated in the show before he dropped, which used to happen all the time when probate shows used to occur when there were "probates."

Going to read the article again. LOL.
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