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09-24-2008, 06:47 PM
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lol...apparently selective memory works both ways.
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^^^Thank you...exactly  .
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09-24-2008, 08:00 PM
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Charles Schumer is an idiot.
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"The negotiations have gone on," Schumer, an Obama supporter, said. "It's as if, you know, you're in the middle of drawing an amazing painting and someone else comes in and says, 'hey, come in, let me throw my brush marks on there.' It just doesn't make sense."
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You don't draw a painting. And I certainly wouldn't take the bold step of calling this clusterf*ck of a bailout plan "an amazing painting".
His quote also makes it sound like the Democrats don't want McCain stealing credit for their "amazing painting" of a bailout. That's good, because if I had to guess he's going to vote against it.
Schumer had one thing right about his analogy. "It just doesn't make sense."
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09-24-2008, 08:50 PM
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Obama will be going to DC. Bush has requested that both candidates and Congressional leaders attend an emergency summit at the White House Thursday and Obama agreed after Bush personally called to request his presence.
http://www.wnbc.com/news/17551484/detail.html
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09-25-2008, 12:21 AM
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Letterman tonight is AMAZING!!!!!
Don't cancel your interview spot on a late night talk show not only will you be the source of his monologue and top ten, but he will also get Keith Olberman to take your place as the nights guest. . . .
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09-25-2008, 12:35 AM
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^^Agreed. Even with the teasers I read on Drudge about Letterman, he is going after McCain even harder than I expected.
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09-25-2008, 06:12 AM
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I can understand canceling Letterman to work on the economics crisis. I cannot understand canceling the debate. We're talking about a couple hours on a Friday night. If the politicians in Washington do their jobs and work together for a resolution to this crisis, there will be a bill in place by Friday night. I think they should change the focus of the debate from foreign policy to the economy but it should still be held.
ETA: I've solved the problem. The government can just pay off all of our mortgages and we will then flood the economy purchasing stuff with all of our extra cash
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09-25-2008, 09:31 AM
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http://voices.washingtonpost.com/the...l?hpid=topnews
So glad to see he's taken the initiative to do this. While the campaign is VERY important, it's important that the Senators remember what they've already been elected to do. And with this situation in crisis mode, it's absolutely the responsible thing to do. Of course I've supported McCain before this, but this is confirms why.
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Sorry, but this actually made me laugh, and not only because most of the people I've talked to (granted, probably a biased group) have been rolling their eyes at McCain. My wife (definately biased) sees it as another example of knee-jerk reactions from McCain.
If conducting his business as a Senator is what he was elected to do, then I guess he (and Obama and Clinton and Biden) have been shirking their duties all along. Of course, maybe McCain just needs a little more time to learn about it all, since he's said that he doesn't know that much about economics and just a few weeks ago assured us that the economy is fundamentally strong.
Clearly it's posturing. Not that he's the only one posturing here, but that's what it is. And regardless of what he intends, he's making it look like he's trying to avoid the debate.
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09-25-2008, 09:41 AM
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Blowing off Dave = worst move EVER. Especially blowing him off for Katie Couric whose stock is falling faster every day.
This reminds me of President Johnson saying if he'd lost Cronkite (re Vietnam) he'd lost America.
And no, I don't think I am overdramatizing this. I don't know what his advisors are thinking (if he even has them) but this was an incredibly boneheaded thing to do.
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09-25-2008, 02:14 PM
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I gotcha, I thought you were defending the poll DS had posted as showing that.
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09-25-2008, 02:29 PM
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I can maybe understand that logistically it's hard to pull TV and radio ads immediately. (Although I know it's been done before for non-political reasons.)
But why, if he has suspended his campaign, are his surrogates and/or campaign staff still appearing on TV, why are they sending out their blast emails to the press today, why is he interviewing with Couric, etc? What has been "suspended" other than the Letterman interview and a couple speeches? Did he not say he was going to stop everything?
http://blogs.tnr.com/tnr/blogs/the_p...disbelief.aspx
Don't get me wrong, I think the whole idea of a campaign suspension is idiotic. But if you are going to say you will suspend your campaign, doesn't it make sense to actually do so? Maybe he doesn't have full control over the advertising, but surely he has control over whether his own staff appear on TV and send out campaign emails to reporters today?
Even more idiotic than suspending is claiming to do so falsely. Makes it look more and more like a convenient way to postpone the debate and somehow manage to cancel the VP debate altogether.
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09-25-2008, 02:49 PM
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I can maybe understand that logistically it's hard to pull TV and radio ads immediately. (Although I know it's been done before for non-political reasons.)
But why, if he has suspended his campaign, are his surrogates and/or campaign staff still appearing on TV, why are they sending out their blast emails to the press today, why is he interviewing with Couric, etc? What has been "suspended" other than the Letterman interview and a couple speeches? Did he not say he was going to stop everything?
http://blogs.tnr.com/tnr/blogs/the_p...disbelief.aspx
Don't get me wrong, I think the whole idea of a campaign suspension is idiotic. But if you are going to say you will suspend your campaign, doesn't it make sense to actually do so? Maybe he doesn't have full control over the advertising, but surely he has control over whether his own staff appear on TV and send out campaign emails to reporters today?
Even more idiotic than suspending is claiming to do so falsely. Makes it look more and more like a convenient way to postpone the debate and somehow manage to cancel the VP debate altogether.
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"you gotta have a gimmick, if you want to get ahead" has been playing in my head all day...
I think he meant that HE is stopping the campaigning, but made it sound much more heroic like his campaign is stopping all together. Its not, and it won't. Mr. McCain goes to Washington will and is getting a media bump, and may result in a poll bump. I can just see my grandmother telling me how noble he is for doing so.
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09-25-2008, 02:51 PM
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I don't think it will have an effect either way. If you like McCain, you'll say "how noble", if you don't, you say "Why can't he multi task? Why is he afraid to debate?" If you don't care, you won't care more now.
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09-25-2008, 02:55 PM
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I don't think it will have an effect either way. If you like McCain, you'll say "how noble", if you don't, you say "Why can't he multi task? Why is he afraid to debate?" If you don't care, you won't care more now.
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You're right when it comes to the loyalists on either side. I think it may matter, though, in so far as it affects (assuming it does) the thinking of that dwindling group of people who may actually vote and who are still making up their minds.
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09-25-2008, 03:16 PM
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Ok...so the poll was a lil' early...and I guarantee it will go down...why??
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/candidate...ncial_meltdown
Even after Congress has agreed to handle the fallout....McCain has still decided to NOT GO to the debate (his mind may change of course....) I still think this is a punk move.
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09-25-2008, 03:47 PM
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I agree with you, but the Democrats are helping him out by demanding to know how he is going to vote over and over again. It makes it seem like they're looking to take their cues from McCain, which he can portray as being a leader (and if they end up voting together reaching across party lines to build a consensus).
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