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Old 07-15-2008, 05:49 PM
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Sidenote.... I agree with DSTCHAOS. No offense, but I don't think the spokesperson phrased it properly. Cultural competency?
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Old 07-15-2008, 06:01 PM
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Sidenote.... I agree with DSTCHAOS. No offense, but I don't think the spokesperson phrased it properly. Cultural competency?
I guess.

When I read "non-exclusive" I had one opinion. When I read "she looks forward to working with all of them to help bring change to their communities" I had another opinion. The latter seems like she doesn't want to be AKA-only in terms of participation and social change--not membership.
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Old 07-15-2008, 07:52 PM
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I guess.

When I read "non-exclusive" I had one opinion. When I read "she looks forward to working with all of them to help bring change to their communities" I had another opinion. The latter seems like she doesn't want to be AKA-only in terms of participation and social change--not membership.
That is also what i thought

But i see now. Someone needs to explain to her she cant have it all 4 ways.

i dont want to see her like Hillary and accept, and then deny. I thought Hill was wrong for that, honestly
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Old 07-15-2008, 07:55 PM
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That is also what i thought

But i see now. Someone needs to explain to her she cant have it all 4 ways.

i dont want to see her like Hillary and accept, and then deny. I thought Hill was wrong for that, honestly
Then we need to explain better beforehand that membership in our orgs is exclusive and that accepting the invite isn't the same as accepting an honorary degree from a university or something.
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Old 07-15-2008, 07:04 PM
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The article says "...But the wife of Democratic presidential candidate Barack Obama wants to make sure people know that accepting AKA's invitation doesn't mean she'd rule out others..." (http://www.swamppolitics.com/news/po...kappa_alp.html)

It seems clear that Michelle does not plan to have exclusive membership in AKA and help the other sororities as a non-member. She wants to be eligible for membership in all 4.
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Old 07-15-2008, 07:14 PM
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The article says "...But the wife of Democratic presidential candidate Barack Obama wants to make sure people know that accepting AKA's invitation doesn't mean she'd rule out others..." (http://www.swamppolitics.com/news/po...kappa_alp.html)

It seems clear that Michelle does not plan to have exclusive membership in AKA and help the other sororities as a non-member. She wants to be eligible for membership in all 4.
I'm sorry but that absolutely reeks of the Obamas political path all along. Pandering to anyone and everyone.
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Old 07-15-2008, 07:25 PM
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I'm sorry but that absolutely reeks of the Obamas political path all along. Pandering to anyone and everyone.
If you have to say "but" then you're not really sorry.
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Old 07-15-2008, 07:30 PM
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I think some people just don't understand that an honorary GLO membership is as binding are any other kind of membership.

I'm not saying that's the case here because I have no idea, but "honorary" whatever (membership, degrees, chairperson) doesn't usually involve the real work that the same non-honorary position would. So I don't think people get that with Greek organizations (all of them as far as I know), if you get initiated, honorary or whatever, you're initiated.

Does any GLO have purely honorary members that don't get initiated?
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Old 07-15-2008, 07:52 PM
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I think some people just don't understand that an honorary GLO membership is as binding are any other kind of membership.

I'm not saying that's the case here because I have no idea, but "honorary" whatever (membership, degrees, chairperson) doesn't usually involve the real work that the same non-honorary position would. So I don't think people get that with Greek organizations (all of them as far as I know), if you get initiated, honorary or whatever, you're initiated.

Does any GLO have purely honorary members that don't get initiated?
You're right, some people (including members of GLO's) think that honorary membership in a GLO is synonymous with having an honorary degree or something. In my org, honorary members are initiatied members and they can be as involved as they like. They can and are encouraged to even become members of alumnae chapters where they live.
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Old 07-15-2008, 08:02 PM
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You're right, some people (including members of GLO's) think that honorary membership in a GLO is synonymous with having an honorary degree or something. In my org, honorary members are initiatied members and they can be as involved as they like. They can and are encouraged to even become members of alumnae chapters where they live.
I met one of your honorary members when I was a teenager, Peola McCaskill. I was also in her namesake unit of the National Association of Parliamentarians, in which she still appears to be active, according to their website.

Since honorary membership was abolished in Alpha, I don't know how active our few truly were beyond speaking at conventions. Which, really, is all I would expect.
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Old 07-15-2008, 10:12 PM
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I agree with Elephant Walk that this is just typical Obama style political pandering but as for Republicans using some hazing incident politically? Come on! You know just about every greek on Capital Hill was involved in some kind of hazing or prank in the 1950s and 60s!
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Old 07-15-2008, 10:18 PM
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but as for Republicans using some hazing incident politically? Come on! You know just about every greek on Capital Hill was involved in some kind of hazing or prank in the 1950s and 60s!
The hazing incident that was being referenced is a lot different than 1950s and 60s hazing or pranks.

I would hope that the Repubs wouldn't stoop so low as to use it.
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Old 07-15-2008, 10:43 PM
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I'm guessing that if the Republicans want to go after Michelle Obama they'd probably come up with something better than a hazing incident in an organization that she recently accepted honorary membership in.

Just saying.
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Old 07-15-2008, 10:47 PM
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I'm guessing that if the Republicans want to go after Michelle Obama they'd probably come up with something better than a hazing incident in an organization that she recently accepted honorary membership in.

Just saying.
Actually, it isn't uncommon to attempt to use people's old or new affiliations, of any type, against them by ignoring the 99% that's good and highlighting the 1% that's bad.

These are hypotheticals. Desperate times call for desperate measures.
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Old 07-16-2008, 10:33 AM
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Actually, it isn't uncommon to attempt to use people's old or new affiliations, of any type, against them by ignoring the 99% that's good and highlighting the 1% that's bad.

These are hypotheticals. Desperate times call for desperate measures.
Exactly. They have been trying to use all affiliations that the Obama's have with others ever since Rev. Wright

Rezko is another and the other guy on his staff who they said received some type of deal when he bought his home.

To think that they may not try n dig up something like this just to say that the Obama's affiliations are questionable is not far-fetched. We all know how the repubs like to do.
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