Congrats to Michelle Obama

[UGAalum94]

I'm guessing that if the Republicans want to go after Michelle Obama they'd probably come up with something better than a hazing incident in an organization that she recently accepted honorary membership in.

Just saying.

[DSTCHAOS]

Originally Posted by UGAalum94

I'm guessing that if the Republicans want to go after Michelle Obama they'd probably come up with something better than a hazing incident in an organization that she recently accepted honorary membership in.

Just saying.

Actually, it isn't uncommon to attempt to use people's old or new affiliations, of any type, against them by ignoring the 99% that's good and highlighting the 1% that's bad.

These are hypotheticals. Desperate times call for desperate measures.

Originally Posted by DSTCHAOS

Actually, it isn't uncommon to attempt to use people's old or new affiliations, of any type, against them by ignoring the 99% that's good and highlighting the 1% that's bad.

These are hypotheticals. Desperate times call for desperate measures.

Exactly. They have been trying to use all affiliations that the Obama's have with others ever since Rev. Wright

Rezko is another and the other guy on his staff who they said received some type of deal when he bought his home.

To think that they may not try n dig up something like this just to say that the Obama's affiliations are questionable is not far-fetched. We all know how the repubs like to do.

[DSTCHAOS]

Originally Posted by Sparklez1920

We all know how the repubs like to do.

That's a political thing. Not a Repub thing. The Dems are also grimey when they are desperate.

None of these parties are worth a damn.

[oldu]

Michelle Obama is not the first politico to accept membership in a Greek organization without fully knowing the obligations. JFK was made an honorary member of Phi Kappa Theta (sans an initiation) and widely touted by the fraternity but never recognized by him in any bio materials. As was Hubert Humphrey into Tau Delta Phi under similar circumstances. Truman was made an honorary Lambda Chi Alpha but evidently acknowledged it from time to time. He may have had an official initiation -- maybe a Lambda Chi can attest to that. No doubt more than one group has made a pass at Barack himself.

[rhoyaltempest]

Originally Posted by oldu

Michelle Obama is not the first politico to accept membership in a Greek organization without fully knowing the obligations. JFK was made an honorary member of Phi Kappa Theta (sans an initiation) and widely touted by the fraternity but never recognized by him in any bio materials. As was Hubert Humphrey into Tau Delta Phi under similar circumstances. Truman was made an honorary Lambda Chi Alpha but evidently acknowledged it from time to time. He may have had an official initiation -- maybe a Lambda Chi can attest to that. No doubt more than one group has made a pass at Barack himself.

As far as the D9 goes, we don't have members that haven't been initiated, honorary or otherwise. At this point, Michelle Obama has only accepted the invitation but hasn't been inducted yet. She will not be a member until that happens so either Michelle or AKA could still decline/reverse the offer at this point.

[jon1856]

Originally Posted by rhoyaltempest

As far as the D9 goes, we don't have members that haven't been initiated, honorary or otherwise. At this point, Michelle Obama has only accepted the invitation but hasn't been inducted yet. She will not be a member until that happens so either Michelle or AKA could still decline/reverse the offer at this point.

Not sure that is going to happen:
Sorority Celebrates Michelle Obama’s Acceptance
Michelle Obama is sometimes compared to Jackie Kennedy, but she may now have something in common with another first lady, Eleanor Roosevelt. The wife of F.D.R. became a honorary member of Alpha Kappa Alpha Sorority, an historically black organization founded in 1908, and the group announced this week at its Centennial Convention in Washington that Mrs. Obama had agreed to join. ....
The sorority said that once Mrs. Obama is formally inducted into the organization, which has 225,000 members, she can’t become a member of any of the other “Divine Nine” organizations, as black sororities and fraternities are often called. Other honorary members of Alpha Kappa Alpha include the poet Maya Angelou, the late Coretta Scott King and former astronaut Mae Jemison.
But tonight a spokeswoman for Mrs. Obama, Katie McCormick Lelyveld, said: “Because of her respect for each of the historically black sororities and fraternities, her membership is
non-exclusive. She looks forward to working with all of them to help
bring change to their communities.”
http://thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com/2008/07/14/sorority-celebrates-michelle-obamas-acceptance/?scp=2&sq=Michelle%20Obama&st=cse

[UGAalum94]

Originally Posted by Sparklez1920

Exactly. They have been trying to use all affiliations that the Obama's have with others ever since Rev. Wright

Rezko is another and the other guy on his staff who they said received some type of deal when he bought his home.

To think that they may not try n dig up something like this just to say that the Obama's affiliations are questionable is not far-fetched. We all know how the repubs like to do.

But, when you've got Rezko and Rev. Wright, who needs AKA? (and how can you say that Republicans dug those up? They were pretty public, longstanding relationships. It would sort be be like saying Democrats dug up McCain's friendship with Lieberman. What?)

What you've mentioned and honorary membership in AKA aren't comparable. I really doubt AKA honorary membership ever becomes an issue.

ETA: Fundamentally, AKA membership will be regarded as a positive. The work it would take to make it look bad because of hazing issues, was it? would also end up slandering basically every GLO and risk alienating anyone with Greek membership. I try not to underestimate the stupidity of any political party, but I just don't think it's going to be spun into a problem.

[DSTCHAOS]

Originally Posted by UGAalum94

But, when you've got Rezko and Rev. Wright, who needs AKA? (and how can you say that Republicans dug those up? They were pretty public, longstanding relationships. It would sort be be like saying Democrats dug up McCain's friendship with Lieberman. What?)

What you've mentioned and honorary membership in AKA aren't comparable. I really doubt AKA honorary membership ever becomes an issue.

ETA: Fundamentally, AKA membership will be regarded as a positive. The work it would take to make it look bad because of hazing issues, was it? would also end up slandering basically every GLO and risk alienating anyone with Greek membership. I try not to underestimate the stupidity of any political party, but I just don't think it's going to be spun into a problem.

Oh good grief. It was a hypothetical.

We don't know and neither do you.

Originally Posted by UGAalum94

But, when you've got Rezko and Rev. Wright, who needs AKA? (and how can you say that Republicans dug those up? They were pretty public, longstanding relationships. It would sort be be like saying Democrats dug up McCain's friendship with Lieberman. What?)

What you've mentioned and honorary membership in AKA aren't comparable. I really doubt AKA honorary membership ever becomes an issue.

ETA: Fundamentally, AKA membership will be regarded as a positive. The work it would take to make it look bad because of hazing issues, was it? would also end up slandering basically every GLO and risk alienating anyone with Greek membership. I try not to underestimate the stupidity of any political party, but I just don't think it's going to be spun into a problem.

The point i was making was that they can continue to question his affiliations as they have been doing this election. Of course Rezko and Rev Wright are more questionable, but digging up a hazing incident from way back when can show this so called "Lack of Judgment" that Obama has and a pattern of questionable affiliations

I wasnt trying to say the repubs dug those up, but it wouldnt surprise me if the repubs dug up those old hazing incidents and tried to link his campaign with it

Folks are already speculating about it right here

http://blog.washingtonpost.com/dc/20...om_melody.html

[jon1856]

Originally Posted by Sparklez1920

The point i was making was that they can continue to question his affiliations as they have been doing this election. Of course Rezko and Rev Wright are more questionable, but digging up a hazing incident from way back when can show this so called "Lack of Judgment" that Obama has and a pattern of questionable affiliations

I wasn't trying to say the repubs dug those up, but it wouldn't surprise me if the repubs dug up those old hazing incidents and tried to link his campaign with it

Folks are already speculating about it right here

http://blog.washingtonpost.com/dc/20...om_melody.html

Could you point out for us just where in the Washington Post blog is there even a mention or speculation about hazing?
Or are you pointing out the comment section of it?
And if so, you should read the comments in the NYT's blog as well. Sort of the same, just better written. Or is it written better?

Originally Posted by jon1856

Could you point out for us just where in the Washington Post blog is there even a mention or speculation about hazing?
Or are you pointing out the comment section of it?
And if so, you should read the comments in the NYT's blog as well. Sort of the same, just better written. Or is it written better?

Yes, im talking about the comments section, which is why i said FOLKS are speculating about it

And the FOLKS, are the ones who are going to the voting polls in November

*written better

[MysticCat]

Originally Posted by jon1856

Could you point out for us just where in the Washington Post blog is there even a mention or speculation about hazing?
Or are you pointing out the comment section of it?

From the comments section:

"If AKA is so inclusive and by virtue of their tax status MUST NOT be biased for or against a particular party, I must ask, did AKA extend the same honorary invitation to Cindy McCain? Also isnt AKA the sorority where two young women lost their lives to hazing? As I write anohter young woman is recuperating from disabling injuries due to hazing by AKAs. Lets all write Obama and ask why Michelle Obama is willing to join this elitist exclusionary group whose members were featured in Mink coats as a form of status."

Posted by: Rita | July 14, 2008 9:05 PM