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07-15-2008, 10:12 PM
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I agree with Elephant Walk that this is just typical Obama style political pandering but as for Republicans using some hazing incident politically? Come on! You know just about every greek on Capital Hill was involved in some kind of hazing or prank in the 1950s and 60s!
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07-15-2008, 10:18 PM
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but as for Republicans using some hazing incident politically? Come on! You know just about every greek on Capital Hill was involved in some kind of hazing or prank in the 1950s and 60s!
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The hazing incident that was being referenced is a lot different than 1950s and 60s hazing or pranks.
I would hope that the Repubs wouldn't stoop so low as to use it.
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07-15-2008, 10:43 PM
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I'm guessing that if the Republicans want to go after Michelle Obama they'd probably come up with something better than a hazing incident in an organization that she recently accepted honorary membership in.
Just saying.
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07-15-2008, 10:47 PM
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I'm guessing that if the Republicans want to go after Michelle Obama they'd probably come up with something better than a hazing incident in an organization that she recently accepted honorary membership in.
Just saying.
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Actually, it isn't uncommon to attempt to use people's old or new affiliations, of any type, against them by ignoring the 99% that's good and highlighting the 1% that's bad.
These are hypotheticals. Desperate times call for desperate measures.
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07-16-2008, 10:33 AM
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Actually, it isn't uncommon to attempt to use people's old or new affiliations, of any type, against them by ignoring the 99% that's good and highlighting the 1% that's bad.
These are hypotheticals. Desperate times call for desperate measures.
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Exactly. They have been trying to use all affiliations that the Obama's have with others ever since Rev. Wright
Rezko is another and the other guy on his staff who they said received some type of deal when he bought his home.
To think that they may not try n dig up something like this just to say that the Obama's affiliations are questionable is not far-fetched. We all know how the repubs like to do.
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07-16-2008, 10:37 AM
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We all know how the repubs like to do.
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That's a political thing. Not a Repub thing. The Dems are also grimey when they are desperate.
None of these parties are worth a damn.
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07-16-2008, 10:52 AM
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Michelle Obama is not the first politico to accept membership in a Greek organization without fully knowing the obligations. JFK was made an honorary member of Phi Kappa Theta (sans an initiation) and widely touted by the fraternity but never recognized by him in any bio materials. As was Hubert Humphrey into Tau Delta Phi under similar circumstances. Truman was made an honorary Lambda Chi Alpha but evidently acknowledged it from time to time. He may have had an official initiation -- maybe a Lambda Chi can attest to that. No doubt more than one group has made a pass at Barack himself.
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07-16-2008, 11:20 AM
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Exactly. They have been trying to use all affiliations that the Obama's have with others ever since Rev. Wright
Rezko is another and the other guy on his staff who they said received some type of deal when he bought his home.
To think that they may not try n dig up something like this just to say that the Obama's affiliations are questionable is not far-fetched. We all know how the repubs like to do.
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But, when you've got Rezko and Rev. Wright, who needs AKA? (and how can you say that Republicans dug those up? They were pretty public, longstanding relationships. It would sort be be like saying Democrats dug up McCain's friendship with Lieberman. What?)
What you've mentioned and honorary membership in AKA aren't comparable. I really doubt AKA honorary membership ever becomes an issue.
ETA: Fundamentally, AKA membership will be regarded as a positive. The work it would take to make it look bad because of hazing issues, was it? would also end up slandering basically every GLO and risk alienating anyone with Greek membership. I try not to underestimate the stupidity of any political party, but I just don't think it's going to be spun into a problem.
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07-16-2008, 11:33 AM
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But, when you've got Rezko and Rev. Wright, who needs AKA? (and how can you say that Republicans dug those up? They were pretty public, longstanding relationships. It would sort be be like saying Democrats dug up McCain's friendship with Lieberman. What?)
What you've mentioned and honorary membership in AKA aren't comparable. I really doubt AKA honorary membership ever becomes an issue.
ETA: Fundamentally, AKA membership will be regarded as a positive. The work it would take to make it look bad because of hazing issues, was it? would also end up slandering basically every GLO and risk alienating anyone with Greek membership. I try not to underestimate the stupidity of any political party, but I just don't think it's going to be spun into a problem.
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Oh good grief. It was a hypothetical.
We don't know and neither do you.
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07-16-2008, 12:05 PM
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But, when you've got Rezko and Rev. Wright, who needs AKA? (and how can you say that Republicans dug those up? They were pretty public, longstanding relationships. It would sort be be like saying Democrats dug up McCain's friendship with Lieberman. What?)
What you've mentioned and honorary membership in AKA aren't comparable. I really doubt AKA honorary membership ever becomes an issue.
ETA: Fundamentally, AKA membership will be regarded as a positive. The work it would take to make it look bad because of hazing issues, was it? would also end up slandering basically every GLO and risk alienating anyone with Greek membership. I try not to underestimate the stupidity of any political party, but I just don't think it's going to be spun into a problem.
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The point i was making was that they can continue to question his affiliations as they have been doing this election. Of course Rezko and Rev Wright are more questionable, but digging up a hazing incident from way back when can show this so called "Lack of Judgment" that Obama has and a pattern of questionable affiliations
I wasnt trying to say the repubs dug those up, but it wouldnt surprise me if the repubs dug up those old hazing incidents and tried to link his campaign with it
Folks are already speculating about it right here
http://blog.washingtonpost.com/dc/20...om_melody.html
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07-16-2008, 10:15 AM
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I agree with Elephant Walk that this is just typical Obama style political pandering . . .
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"Obama-style" political pandering, or political astuteness that just about any competent politician from either side of the aisle, would demonstrate? The latter, I think.
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07-16-2008, 10:25 AM
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"Obama-style" political pandering, or political astuteness that just about any competent politician from either side of the aisle, would demonstrate? The latter, I think.
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