Sorority in crisis, please help!!

[Kevin]

Knowing nothing about how sororities work...

Is the OP a member of the chapter?

If so, why isn't the house corporation doing their job? This is not a problem that the active chapter should be facing alone. They're simply not equipped.

The house corp needs to come in and tell 'em how it's going to be... or they can sell the house. This has got to be a problem with some older chapters where the members of the house corp no longer have a personal financial stake in whether or not the house gets foreclosed on. If these folks don't want to do their jobs, perhaps it's time for your HQ to have a come to Jesus with your alumnae?

[Tom Earp]

Seems the O P is not interested any longer.

Maybe she doesn't care?

It is still of interest for all of us who own House Buildings.

[angelic1]

We ran into a similiar situation when I was a sophmore in my chapter. And had several emergency meetings to resolve the issue. Our chapter house rooms are owned by the school, we rent the rest. Its odd - its "your house", but not really.

Here is what we did...
first we held a meeting to see if anyone would give up their current leases - girls would do whatever to help find another roommate to sublease in her place/chapter would pay the apartment fees for subleasing.

Any girl in the house could buy out an entire room to live by herself (two girls per room was standard)

Or we were forced to have nonmembers move in. Which would have been very bad - since we owned some much of the extras in the house and letters everywhere.

What ended up happening ... many girls gave up leases to move in... people helped find others to fill their leases. One girl bought out an entire room. Thats year problem solved.

To avoid the situation in the future first a mandatory requirement that you are required to live in the house one year was adopted. This was told to girls rushing up front, but at the same time we talked up living in the house big time so that girls would want to live their freshman year.

Second a lottery system was done up to make things fair. First everyone wishing to move in could sign a contract, second the lottery was done - if you had not lived in the house and were younger class you had a better chance to having your name drawn, etc. Very unlikely if you were older/lived in the house before that you were name would be chosen.

Yes, we had girls drop out instead of living in the house, but honestly if you didn't want to live in the house just because then why were you in the sorority in the first place.

For the rest of the time I was there things worked out - honestly I do not know how the housing situation has been since.

[ISUKiteFlyer]

Originally Posted by adpiucf

Your house corp should pay to break leases for those sisters who have already signed with off-campus housing/on-campus residence halls, etc. This will cost them far less in the long-run.

I agree that it would be far cheaper for your corp. board in the long run, and better for your chapter in so many ways. Even if they can't step up to the plate and pay to break the leases (or give a short term loan to help their sisters), they could at the very least step up and help with the process itself. For some reason landlords pay a little more attention in college towns when an "adult" is involved, and it might help the members feel taken care of, that their house needs them.

Originally Posted by adpiucf

You also need to amend your chapter bylaws once the school year begins to address what you should do if the house is not full and the order of priority for members to move-in. In fact, review your bylaws now-- the guide may already be in there!

Agreed! When I was initiated, we had 27 actives in a house that can hold 52. (We're closer to 70 now, hooray!) It was openly stated that our semester of initiation, we weren't expected to move in (although many Fall Formal Recruitment NMs did) but the following semester, we did. The house needed to stay full, and if there were vacancies, the actives were expected to be in-house. It was a responsibility of membership. If it were full, the Seniors had first choice to be out-of-house, and actually our corp. board happened to own the "residential" house next door and it would become the senior annex.

I digress... do review (and possibly modify) your by-laws and ask your alumnae to step up to the plate! Would your Greek affairs office be able to help with the lease-breaking? Just a last-minute thought...

Good luck, keep us posted!

[raincoat]

Originally Posted by Tom Earp

Seems the O P is not interested any longer.

Maybe she doesn't care?

It is still of interest for all of us who own House Buildings.

Uh, it's only been a few hours. She probably just has a life outside of GC.

[ForeverRoses]

Why is this problem just coming up now? I went to a medium-sized midwestern university and we had to have our housing contracts in place by the end of winter quarter.
We used to have a meeting of all actives and those that wanted to live in the house would sign up to do so. If there were empty spots, then those who had signed up to live in the house would leave the room, followed by those who had already lived in the house. Then everyone who had yet to live in got to sit in the room until the house was full.

The only options I see are 1) force girls to break thier lease 2) allow new members to move into the house right away. If the new members are in dorms, the university might allow sophmores and up to break thier contracts and move into the house.

Whatever you do, make sure that during recuitment, it looks like the house is full- so if you have 1 girl in a double- put a comforter or whatever on the spare bed so that it looks like 2 girls are there (especially during open house).

[ISUKappa]

Originally Posted by ForeverRoses

Whatever you do, make sure that during recuitment, it looks like the house is full- so if you have 1 girl in a double- put a comforter or whatever on the spare bed so that it looks like 2 girls are there (especially during open house).

Or if you can, just close the doors to those rooms and don't show them.

One thing I did like at my undergrad was there were often 2-3 spots open in the fall semester so that if a new member wanted to move in right after recruitment (we had recruitment the week before school started) she could. We had quite a few new members take advantage of that while I was in school.

[denimeans]

Just to clarify:
We had a mandatory move-in list. Our bylaws say 1 year in the house, and if at mandatory move in time, chaper members would be reviewed by judiary board. Our advisor gave us the option to vote on it this spring. Our chapter chose not to execute the list. Most of the younger girls didn't seem to really process the amount of money this would add up to.
Our active chapter has a poor relationship with our house corp, and has for quite some time. A situation like this happened before about 5 years ago, but it wasn't this amount of empty spaces.

The town my school is in passed a law banning the zoning of any new greek houysing. There are only about 12 houses at a school with 18 fraternities and sororities. We do not want to lose this house. Even though it isn't ideal, if we lost it we would never get it back.

Our chapter has faced empty spots every year I've been in the chapter. (I'm a senior) When I lived in the house, we had one empty, but it has never been at this point.

I am monitoring this closely, as are other chapter members. Please keep posting. And that point about recruitment is an excellent idea.

[33girl]

Originally Posted by denimeans

Just to clarify:
We had a mandatory move-in list. Our bylaws say 1 year in the house, and if at mandatory move in time, chaper members would be reviewed by judiary board. Our advisor gave us the option to vote on it this spring. Our chapter chose not to execute the list. Most of the younger girls didn't seem to really process the amount of money this would add up to.

Your advisor is beyond stupid. Why on earth did she have the power to tell you to vote whether or not to do this? It's in your bylaws, you have to follow it, unless you change the bylaw! Is she an alumna of your sorority?

[adpiucf]

You do have a house corp, right?

At this point, 20K in the hole is not good. Your president needs to send a message out to the sisters, stat-- We either fill this house or we will lose this house and we will never get another. We have 10 spots to fill and we will work with you to get you out of a signed lease so you aren't paying a penalty. 10 spots-- what's it going to be ladies?

[Kevin]

Originally Posted by 33girl

Your advisor is beyond stupid. Why on earth did she have the power to tell you to vote whether or not to do this? It's in your bylaws, you have to follow it, unless you change the bylaw! Is she an alumna of your sorority?

I definitely agree with that. Advisers need to be aware of the concept that a fraternal organization is a business first. In fact, part of their job is to be more cognizant of that fact than they typically more inexperienced collegians.

I think your problems only start there though. It sounds like your house corp in this has been relatively silent. I personally cannot imagine a house corp which would allow the organization to be 20K in the hole and not be raising a whole bunch of hell with the actives. Needless to say, unless they are being more proactive than you're letting on (and given the situation, I can't possibly imagine this), they're not doing their jobs. They ought to move on voluntarily, agree to do their jobs, or be replaced.

A successful chapter often depends on successful and dedicated alums. In your chapters case, from what you're telling us, this is what y'all are lacking.

I don't know what I'd recommend at this point because I don't know how sororities work internally. If it were my organization, I'd see if the Pres. could place a discrete call to HQ (by discrete, I mean the alums don't need to know about this)... the Pres. needs to relay the situation to them to see if they can't get some consultants here to pull your your alums' heads out of their asses.

A caveat: I have said over and over that I don't know a damned thing about the inner workings of your group. If calling your HQ about this situation would in itself jeopardize your group's continual existence by putting HQ on notice that you're a financial risk, obviously, fix the problem yourself, do your best to pay down that debt, THEN call... if your HQ would be more likely to be supportive and helpful through this, call them ASAP.

[ISUKappa]

Originally Posted by denimeans

Just to clarify:
We had a mandatory move-in list. Our bylaws say 1 year in the house, and if at mandatory move in time, chaper members would be reviewed by judiary board. Our advisor gave us the option to vote on it this spring. Our chapter chose not to execute the list. Most of the younger girls didn't seem to really process the amount of money this would add up to.
Our active chapter has a poor relationship with our house corp, and has for quite some time. A situation like this happened before about 5 years ago, but it wasn't this amount of empty spaces.

If your advisor knew of the financial difficulties of the chapter, it was not a good idea, IMO, for her to allow your chapter that option.

I think your Treasurer and her advisor need to go over the budget and plan a report for the entire chapter. Perhaps if the members actually see the breakdown of where their money is going, it will make them more aware of the situation. Make the members know they will feel the direct results of the money shortage - whether it means cutbacks in the food, social, recruitment, or other budgets or no updates and only necessary repairs to the chapter facility. It's the only way they will understand.

The House Corp and chapter also need to resolve their differences and learn to work together. See if chapter members are allowed to come to meetings (in some cases, certain chapter officers are actually ex-officio members) to know exactly what's going on and to bring the view of the chapter to the House Corp. If that won't work, then, in most cases, it's completely within the President's rights to notify a regional officer or your HQ of the situation and ask for assistance.

Our chapter has faced empty spots every year I've been in the chapter. (I'm a senior) When I lived in the house, we had one empty, but it has never been at this point.

I am monitoring this closely, as are other chapter members. Please keep posting. And that point about recruitment is an excellent idea.

Again, IMO, one or two open spots isn't necessarily a bad thing provided your chapter and House corp is financially solvent with those open spots. As I mentioned, having those open spots available for new members to move in right away after recruitment was often a selling point to PNMs, especially sophomores who maybe hadn't signed a lease and didn't want to live in the dorms.

Also, aside from "legitimate" excuses, is there any particular reason women want to live out? IME, the women wanting to move out early wanted the "freedoms" (booze, boys, etc..) that weren't allowed in the chapter facility. Provide a breakdown of the cost of living in the chapter facility with all amenities included and then provide a breakdown of living in an apartment and all the things the members will then be responsible for themselves (food, utilities, cleaning, etc...). Some women don't always realize how much they're actually getting by living in the chapter facility. And talk living in the chapter facility up! I lived in my house 3.5 years and had an absolute blast. No, communal living isn't always easy and it isn't always the best option for everyone, but it is a great experience and this is about the only time in your life you'll have/need that option.

[alum]

Also, aside from "legitimate" excuses, is there any particular reason women want to live out?

My parents wanted me to keep a single in the dorm so I would have a quiet place to study. My H and I feel the same way regarding our daughter remaining in the dorm vs. living in her house.

[ISUKiteFlyer]

Originally Posted by alum

My parents wanted me to keep a single in the dorm so I would have a quiet place to study. My H and I feel the same way regarding our daughter remaining in the dorm vs. living in her house.

I'm sorry you feel that way... Maybe it's a difference in schools/systems? Also coming from a Midwestern campus... I lived 2 years in the dorms and 2 years in-house. It was far easier to ask my sisters to respect my study time than the random guy who happened to live a floor up from my dorm room. Our chapter house had a 24-hour quiet study room, a 'card room' that was great, and the dining room turned into study central during dead and finals week. Not to mention the plethora of quiet rooms on campus (library, student union, empty class rooms, lounges/commons in most buildings-upper floors were quietest). I truly felt part of the house when I moved in, not like some outsider that didn't really know what was happening. Everyone has different study habits. Finding study spaces is a part of living in any college community (chapter house, dorm, or apartment).

Especially if their corp. board is failing to support them very well, these sisters need to be tight, which means living together. Build your sisterhood - our greatest Fall Recruitment whilst I was there (ah... the good old days! )was when we spent a good amount of time on getting to know each other and bonding - seeing our sisterhood, the PNMs wanted to be a part of that bond. Also a bonus: "Oh, your majoring in Elementary Ed? We have seven in the house!" "You're interested in Business Club? My roommate is President of that." etc... knowing what your sisters do helps create that connection with the PNM and your chapter. Always a good thing.

Originally Posted by ForeverRoses
Whatever you do, make sure that during recruitment, it looks like the house is full- so if you have 1 girl in a double- put a comforter or whatever on the spare bed so that it looks like 2 girls are there (especially during open house).

I'll third that. If you have rooms that are completely or partially empty for one reason or another, decorate them. Some facilities, depending on the lighting, might be dark and intimidating to PNMs with shut doors... do everything you can to keep the facility open, welcoming, and looking like home... so there will be a few decisions for you there, too, depending on your facility. (...oh, and always put your name on anything you lend to an empty room... )

Another thought... if you do have some vacancies, make certain your members don't convey "we're desperate to fill spaces so you can move in right away" ... make sure everyone is scripted with something to to effect of "sometimes we have a few spaces open in the Fall for NMs, and I think this semester we might" ...mentioning if sophomores have priority. You're avoiding two dangers: a) appearing as if you'll take any warm body (which you're not) and b) potentially promising every PNM they can for sure move in (which, I'm guessing if you hit quota, they can't).

Long Post! ...again, Good Luck!

[DZRose]

I have had experience with a very large chapter and how they maintain the house being full. The entire chapter lives in the house. That's usually 120+ girls. Seniors get the option to live out if the house if full of Freshman, Sophmores, and Juniors. They also bought the house next to their large house and it also houses seniors.

Their rules are basically this:
1. Everyone lives in the house. That's it.
2. There are some exceptions: Medical reasons if documented by a physician, if the student still lives at home, or very extenuating cirucumstances that would best meet the needs of the sister and these are all submitted to house corporation who then meet and decide on each submission. The chapter president and one other representative are also on house corp so it's not just a bunch of old bitties sitting and deciding. I also believe RA's are excused for obvious reasons.
3. This is explained to the women as they go through rush. Since it is made clear to them at that time, there is usually little problem.

I think the important thing to do is to establish rules for your house, and unless there are specific situations that present themself, you need to follow them. They should not be open for discussion. Empty beds (as you've discovered) can seriously mess up chapter operation and the whole chapter ends up paying (literally and figuratively) for it.

For now, I think the best thing is to do what many others on here have suggested and that's try to re-establish the rules that sound like they were in place, pay for women to break their lease, and get the beds filled.