Alpha Phi does not support Safe Campus Act

[clemsongirl]

Delta Phi Epsilon HQ put out this statement:


Sigma Delta Tau has said that they opposed supporting the bills at the annual NPC meeting last month, Delta Gamma HQ says they do not sponsor any current legislation regarding sexual assault on college campuses and Alpha Gamma Delta has also voiced their disapproval of both bills.

[clemsongirl]

For what it's worth, I do not support this legislation both as a survivor of sexual assault and as a member of the student judiciary that participates in administrative hearings where students can potentially be removed from campus. I believe that requiring survivors to go to the police in order to seek separation from their attacker on-campus is counterproductive, especially when the police on campus hold beliefs like this.

I can agree that some schools may need an overhaul in how they hear alleged cases of sexual assault, but forcing survivors to the police first to protect their safety on campus is not the way to do it.

[Kevin]

Originally Posted by clemsongirl

For what it's worth, I do not support this legislation both as a survivor of sexual assault and as a member of the student judiciary that participates in administrative hearings where students can potentially be removed from campus. I believe that requiring survivors to go to the police in order to seek separation from their attacker on-campus is counterproductive, especially when the police on campus hold beliefs like this.

I can agree that some schools may need an overhaul in how they hear alleged cases of sexual assault, but forcing survivors to the police first to protect their safety on campus is not the way to do it.

You are an undergraduate who sits on a judicial panel for Title IX investigations?

[clemsongirl]

Originally Posted by Kevin

You are an undergraduate who sits on a judicial panel for Title IX investigations?

I could be asked to be a member of a hearing board for Title IX investigations, I have not specifically heard one yet.

[Kevin]

Originally Posted by clemsongirl

I could be asked to be a member of a hearing board for Title IX investigations, I have not specifically heard one yet.

Nothing against you personally, but wow. One of my chief complaints is that college administrators have no qualifications or experience investigating sexual assaults and some universities are allowing undergrads to do it? Do you have experience in law enforcement?

[clemsongirl]

Originally Posted by Kevin

Nothing against you personally, but wow. One of my chief complaints is that college administrators have no qualifications or experience investigating sexual assaults and some universities are allowing undergrads to do it? Do you have experience in law enforcement?

I do not investigate anything. I sit on a hearing board where any evidence may be presented to me.

[gatordeltapgh]

Originally Posted by Kevin

Nothing against you personally, but wow. One of my chief complaints is that college administrators have no qualifications or experience investigating sexual assaults and some universities are allowing undergrads to do it? Do you have experience in law enforcement?

Typically, the investigation is done by campus police if they are a sworn law enforcement official or a trained investigator that is a staff member in the Title IX office, student affairs office or other. Then some hearing boards are comprised of students, faculty and staff. Others do not have students as participants. Appeals then head up to the VP student affairs or the President.

Some of the issue at hanf is that there is no standard practice.

[Griffins&Quills]

National Panhellenic Conference has withdrawn their support

[Alpha O]

Originally Posted by Griffins&Quills

National Panhellenic Conference has withdrawn their support

Here is the statement:

https://www.npcwomen.org/resources/a...e%20Agenda.pdf

[GTAlphaPhi]

The NIC has also withdrawn support.

I am curious as to which fraternities and sororities put out statements against the Safe Campus Act before the umbrella organizations withdrew support, or those who have not yet formally announced their individual organization's support of or opposition to the Safe Campus Act. Also, were there any statements going either way from NPHC and its constituent groups?

Just to recap who has been named on this thread:

• Alpha Phi
• Phi Mu
• Alpha Chi Omega
• Gamma Phi Beta
• Delta Phi Epsilon
• Sigma Delta Tau
• Delta Gamma
• Alpha GAmma Delta

I'm surprised not to have heard (through social media or from NPC friends) about some of the largest groups like KKG, KAT, DDD, XO, DZ, and ZTA. They might have put out statements, but I just hadn't heard about it.

[GTAlphaPhi]

Updating and alphabetizing the list:

• Alpha Chi Omega
• Alpha Delta Pi
• Alpha Gamma Delta
• Alpha Omicron Pi
• Alpha Phi
• Delta Gamma
• Delta Phi Epsilon
• Gamma Phi Beta
• Phi Mu
• Sigma Delta Tau

Official position unknown (to me) or unpublished:

• Alpha Epsilon Phi
• Alpha Sigma Alpha
• Alpha Sigma Tau
• Alpha Xi Delta
• Chi Omega
• Delta Delta Delta
• Delta Zeta
• Kappa Alpha Theta
• Kappa Delta
• Kappa Kappa Gamma
• Phi Sigma Sigma
• Pi Beta Phi
• Sigma Kappa
• Sigma Sigma Sigma
• Theta Phi Alpha
• Zeta Tau Alpha

Originally Posted by GTAlphaPhi

The NIC has also withdrawn support.

I am curious as to which fraternities and sororities put out statements against the Safe Campus Act before the umbrella organizations withdrew support, or those who have not yet formally announced their individual organization's support of or opposition to the Safe Campus Act. Also, were there any statements going either way from NPHC and its constituent groups?

Just to recap who has been named on this thread:

• Alpha Phi
• Phi Mu
• Alpha Chi Omega
• Gamma Phi Beta
• Delta Phi Epsilon
• Sigma Delta Tau
• Delta Gamma
• Alpha GAmma Delta

I'm surprised not to have heard (through social media or from NPC friends) about some of the largest groups like KKG, KAT, DDD, XO, DZ, and ZTA. They might have put out statements, but I just hadn't heard about it.

[Tom Earp]

GCers. I am not to amazed at what I am seeing! While a discussion about LXA leaving NIC because of their beliefs, it seems that some changes are coming about by others as well.

It is some what heartening to see that we/some feel an injustice with what is trying to be swept under the rug by some.

Many things are going on around campuses all across the country and we as Greeks should set an example. Basically keeping common sense in the mirror!
When it comes to something like rape, this is a legal matter to be handled by the police. If and only if a crime is found to be committed they the findings can be turned over to the school for the decision of the status of the student involved. A situation like rape is not up to the school to make a judgement, that is for the courts of law of which they are not.

It may sound egotistical, but, we are mostly the elite on campus because of all that we as Greeks do!

I applaud Alpha Phi for their stand in this and Delta Phi Epsilon!

[Kevin]

Originally Posted by Tom Earp

GCers. I am not to amazed at what I am seeing! While a discussion about LXA leaving NIC because of their beliefs, it seems that some changes are coming about by others as well.

It is some what heartening to see that we/some feel an injustice with what is trying to be swept under the rug by some.

Many things are going on around campuses all across the country and we as Greeks should set an example. Basically keeping common sense in the mirror!
When it comes to something like rape, this is a legal matter to be handled by the police. If and only if a crime is found to be committed they the findings can be turned over to the school for the decision of the status of the student involved. A situation like rape is not up to the school to make a judgement, that is for the courts of law of which they are not.

It may sound egotistical, but, we are mostly the elite on campus because of all that we as Greeks do!

I applaud Alpha Phi for their stand in this and Delta Phi Epsilon!

You do realize that Alpha Phi, Delta Phi and now NPC pulled out because they do not support requiring schools to involve law enforcement when sexual misconduct is alleged?

(apparently you don't)

[BoomBoom1851]

Alpha Delta Pi is also against the bills as of Saturday.

[AZTheta]

Originally Posted by BoomBoom1851

Alpha Delta Pi is also against the bills as of Saturday.

NPC withdrew support on Friday 11-13-15. Just saw an official statement from Alpha Omicron Pi come across my news feed a few minutes ago.

Of note: Senator Claire McGaskill, Missouri (D) (Kappa Alpha Theta alumna), and Senator Kirsten Gillibrand, New York (D) (Kappa Kappa Gamma alumna), both came out against the bill on Thursday, October 29th, 2015. This was not action taken as representatives of their respective fraternities. Their memberships were referenced. There was media coverage.