Bama APhi video

[33girl]

Originally Posted by AnchorAlumna

To change their current "brand."
And it's working.

YUP.

By that same token though....

buy the ticket, take the ride.

[amIblue?]

Originally Posted by 33girl

LOL, one of the family trees in my chapter used to call themselves the "Clairol 503 family" as they all used the same shade.

This is hilarious.

[ChioLu]

It reminds me of some Pepperdine videos (oh, just search) that the UCLA women were ROFLTAO a few years ago. If a group did this at UCLA, the PNM would think one thing: Fourth and forty (hope you know what that means)

[Loyally Kappa]

Originally Posted by ChioLu

Fourth and forty (hope you know what that means)

I'm clueless. You'd better tell me!

[PinkSkyAtNight]

The video may not have a point, other than featuring their enthusiasm for their school and one another. Lets just remember that these young women are still our Panhellenic sisters, and while their video may not be something we would want for our chapters (as alumnae or actives), being critical of them and their national organization in such a public forum is neither kind nor Panhellenic. These women are adults, and free to make their own choices, even if some consider them mistakes or cringeworthy -- I'm sure we were all saints in college

[AZTheta]

Originally Posted by PinkSkyAtNight

The video may not have a point, other than featuring their enthusiasm for their school and one another. Lets just remember that these young women are still our Panhellenic sisters, and while their video may not be something we would want for our chapters (as alumnae or actives), being critical of them and their national organization in such a public forum is neither kind nor Panhellenic. I might not be comfortable having my daughter featured in one, however, these women are adults, and free to make their own choices, even if we consider them mistakes or cringeworthy -- I'm sure we were all saints in college

THANK YOU.

Grateful there was no Internet/social media/digital cameras when I was in school.

Pretty tired of all the judging. Arizona is full of gorgeous women and men. Our climate is such that you can wear shorts and flip-flops year-around. There is a focus on being healthy and physically fit throughout the lifespan. So what? Put in the context of 18-19 year olds, those videos are fine and reflect what's happening in their world.

Get off Alpha Phi's back. It could just as easily be YOUR chapter that is being talked about here. Seriously. Not kind, not Panhellenic at all. You have your opinion(s) which may or may not be based in fact. Again, so what? I suspect Alpha Phi will have NO TROUBLE attracting new members despite the sniping that is going on here. Go pick up your pearls and restring them.

#morethanalittleannoyed

[Hartofsec]

Originally Posted by AZTheta

Pretty tired of all the judging. Arizona is full of gorgeous women and men. Our climate is such that you can wear shorts and flip-flops year-around. There is a focus on being healthy and physically fit throughout the lifespan. So what? Put in the context of 18-19 year olds, those videos are fine and reflect what's happening in their world.

The video in question is in Alabama. It's hot here too, but the weather kind of hot is not the kind of hot depicted. And I wouldn't say that the scenes in Bryant Denny were really intended to represent physical fitness.

Originally Posted by AZTheta

Get off Alpha Phi's back. It could just as easily be YOUR chapter that is being talked about here. Seriously. Not kind, not Panhellenic at all. You have your opinion(s) which may or may not be based in fact. Again, so what?

Pan·hel·len·ic
ˌpanhəˈlenik/
adjective
adjective: Panhellenic

1. of, concerning, or representing all people of Greek origin or ancestry.
   • relating to, advocating, or denoting the idea of a political union of all Greeks.
   • of, concerning, or representing all college fraternities and sororities

I don't think the video itself is very Panhellenic.

Greek women everywhere should discourage stereotypes and speak up about issues that affect the Greek community. Chapters (specifically and in general) on the University of Alabama campus have been heavily criticized for lack of diversity and discrimination, for instance.

And this video certainly doesn't depict anything positive in the area of diversity. If anything, the depiction moves both the chapter and the University further away.

[PinkSkyAtNight]

Originally Posted by Hartofsec

The video in question is in Alabama. It's hot here too, but the weather kind of hot is not the kind of hot depicted. And I wouldn't say that the scenes in Bryant Denny were really intended to represent physical fitness.

I don't think the video itself is very Panhellenic.

Greek women everywhere should discourage stereotypes and speak up about issues that affect the Greek community. Chapters (specifically and in general) on the University of Alabama campus have been heavily criticized for lack of diversity and discrimination, for instance.

And this video certainly doesn't depict anything positive in the area of diversity. If anything, the depiction moves both the chapter and the University further away.

Thoughtful points, and well stated. However, the time and place for these criticisms might be after recruitment, not while PNMs and their friends and family could easily be reading these boards.

Also, the reality is that it is now a social norm for young women to post pictures of themselves in their bikinis, at the beach, etc on instagram and tumblr... whether they are in a sorority or not. We may disagree with this trend, but singling a few specific sororities for simply being a reflection of our culture at large, is neither productive nor gets the point across -- rather it can come across as critical of all young women of this age.

[IndianaSigKap]

Originally Posted by PinkSkyAtNight

Thoughtful points, and well stated. However, the time and place for these criticisms might be after recruitment, not while PNMs and their friends and family could easily be reading these boards.

As someone who just got home from spending the day with impressionable teenage girls, I tell them every day what you put out on the internet is there for everyone to see. Once it's out there you can no longer control the message. So by putting the video out there, the proverbial cat is out of the bag. If the criticism is unfair, so be it. If there is praise out there, so be it. THEY, themselves, opened the can of worms by putting the video on YouTube. By doing so it's obvious they want major attention. And they got it. As, we say in PR, whether it be bad or good...at least people are talking about it!

I can also tell anyone who is reading this and then reporting back to Greekrank, I have seen nothing on here anywhere near the level of hate that I saw on Yik Yak about the subject. It's young people on Yik Yak, not the old "biddies". If you want to take aim at people who criticized the video, then head to the Yak.

I am not criticizing the video, nor am I criticizing those who are doing the criticizing."I do not agree with what you have to say, but I'll defend to the death your right to say it." - Voltaire

[PinkSkyAtNight]

Originally Posted by Hartofsec

The video in question is in Alabama. It's hot here too, but the weather kind of hot is not the kind of hot depicted. And I wouldn't say that the scenes in Bryant Denny were really intended to represent physical fitness.





I don't think the video itself is very Panhellenic.

Greek women everywhere should discourage stereotypes and speak up about issues that affect the Greek community. Chapters (specifically and in general) on the University of Alabama campus have been heavily criticized for lack of diversity and discrimination, for instance.

And this video certainly doesn't depict anything positive in the area of diversity. If anything, the depiction moves both the chapter and the University further away.

The bottom line is that this is Tent Talk, plain and simple. If you were standing out on sorority row voicing your opinions to other PNMs, I hope that a Rho Chi would pull you aside and tell you that it was inappropriate chatter. I'm not sure why we can't hold ourselves to the same standards.

[AOIILisa]

Originally Posted by AZTheta

THANK YOU.

Grateful there was no Internet/social media/digital cameras when I was in school.

Put in the context of 18-19 year olds, those videos are fine and reflect what's happening in their world.

Get off Alpha Phi's back. It could just as easily be YOUR chapter that is being talked about here. Seriously. Not kind, not Panhellenic at all. You have your opinion(s) which may or may not be based in fact. Again, so what? I suspect Alpha Phi will have NO TROUBLE attracting new members despite the sniping that is going on here. Go pick up your pearls and restring them.

#morethanalittleannoyed

Yeah, I'm glad social media wasn't around when I was in school either!

Originally Posted by PinkSkyAtNight

Also, the reality is that it is now a social norm for young women to post pictures of themselves in their bikinis, at the beach, etc on instagram and tumblr... whether they are in a sorority or not. We may disagree with this trend, but singling a few specific sororities for simply being a reflection of our culture at large, is neither productive nor gets the point across -- rather it can come across as critical of all young women of this age.

Very true - AOII has many chapters with instagram and tumblrs that feature bikini pics and glamour shots, and like it or not, tiers are real and that is the way chapters try to raise their perceived status - by putting the "face girls" out there. It's actually pretty good marketing on this Alpha Phi chapter's part, because I think they are fairly new at Alabama, aren't they? I actually don't mind the video, and if I were an Alpha Phi, I would be pretty happy that everyone was talking about the chapter at Alabama. Hell, I wish it was AOII that everyone was talking about!

I think that 99.9% of girls in sororities are just in it for the college partying, fun, and friends, and don't view it as a lifetime commitment and something to be taken super seriously like most of us on the board here. They won't be the ones to be the national officers, advisers, or involved alumnae, so of course they have a different point of view about sorority experience - and a video like this wouldn't rattle any of their cages.

Just my .02.

[Hartofsec]

Originally Posted by PinkSkyAtNight

The bottom line is that this is Tent Talk, plain and simple.

I disagree -- this is a recruitment video the chapter intentionally uploaded at the beginning of recruitment, for the purpose of being talked about during recruitment, not a rumor or reputation whispered 'round the corner by PNMs.

Originally Posted by PinkSkyAtNight

If you were standing out on sorority row voicing your opinions to other PNMs, I hope that a Rho Chi would pull you aside and tell you that it was inappropriate chatter. I'm not sure why we can't hold ourselves to the same standards.

Really?

Originally Posted by PinkSkyAtNight

And you presume I don't know people who had to be part of this. All I did was post their statement, relax. If people don't like being talked about, then don't give people a reason to talk about you.

Originally Posted by PinkSkyAtNight

We are greek. We are members of the NPC umbrella. We have a right to talk about something when we see something that doesn't feel right or just. I never said I was going to e-mail the president of UT, and I have no such plans. Calm down. You seem very scared that people are even talking about this.

Originally Posted by PinkSkyAtNight

And while you may not agree with e-mailing the president, you have made it very clear that this is nobody else's business except for those who are part of this organization or UT panhellenic. Well, unfortunately, this type of behavior effects all organizations, and feeds into the negative stereotypes about greeks. And attempts or pressure to silence people from addressing it in whatever fashion (e-mail, discussion, whatever) comes accross as defensive.

[Munchkin03]

Originally Posted by AZTheta

THANK YOU.

Grateful there was no Internet/social media/digital cameras when I was in school.

Pretty tired of all the judging. Arizona is full of gorgeous women and men. Our climate is such that you can wear shorts and flip-flops year-around. There is a focus on being healthy and physically fit throughout the lifespan. So what? Put in the context of 18-19 year olds, those videos are fine and reflect what's happening in their world.

Get off Alpha Phi's back. It could just as easily be YOUR chapter that is being talked about here. Seriously. Not kind, not Panhellenic at all. You have your opinion(s) which may or may not be based in fact. Again, so what? I suspect Alpha Phi will have NO TROUBLE attracting new members despite the sniping that is going on here. Go pick up your pearls and restring them.

#morethanalittleannoyed

This.

It was cute, fun, and likely drew their target audience. From the comments before I saw it, I was expecting a soft-core porno.

Calm down y'all.

[KSUViolet06]

Originally Posted by Munchkin03

This.

It was cute, fun, and likely drew their target audience. From the comments before I saw it, I was expecting a soft-core porno.

Calm down y'all.

When I saw that a thread about a recruitment video had 3 pages, I just KNEW someone had to be playing beer pong and doing keg stands in it.

Nope.

Perhaps it's because I work with collegians and recruitment in my volunteer role, but I don't see the uproar/issue.

[Just interested]

Well, I would say they got the attention they wanted. More power to them. Everybody knows their name in that giant field of play known as Alabama Recruitment.