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Old 11-30-2012, 01:18 PM
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This is particularly sad to me as my chapter (while I was an active) was involved with the installation of the Kappa chapter at Trinity back in the early 80's.
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Old 11-30-2012, 01:47 PM
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The thing is, they are not trying to reform the campus culture. Instead they are trying to kill one of the more visible examples of the drinking culture, but I doubt all the people going to the parties are Greek.
Exactly. They think "ha ha, the rich kids can't have their fun now" when the rich kids will go right on having their fun - and will probably have even more fun since they will (the majority of them) no longer have to pay national dues. If they want to reform the campus culture, they have to change the kinds of students they admit.

I also LOL every time they think that going co-ed is the solution. Does anyone remember in Pledged how she was talking about a co-ed fraternity that drank its asses off and were all having sex with each other? But of course, she was OK with it because they didn't have evil exclusionary membership selection practices like a sorority. Eric Cartman sums it up:

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Old 11-30-2012, 02:17 PM
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Well, okay, what CAN the administration do to change campus culture? Young adults living alone for the first time are gonna experiment, can that ever be changed?
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Old 11-30-2012, 02:18 PM
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And it's blindingly obvious what they are trying to do. It isn't even a reform of the Greek system because the three changes are arbitrary. While there is a large difference in amounts of Fraternities and Sororities, there are organizations for both genders. Perhaps trying to increase the amount of organizations of both types if there are large groups of people who cannot get into one or another. I can see the point about pledging, but if they require an open NME process that for the national orgs fits national policy they can nip the bud on both hazing and exclusivity. And the 3.2 GPA seems arbitrary to me. I can definitely agree requiring the organizations to meet the All Campus GPA, but the 3.2 seems like a pretty high arbitrary number to meet. But like I said, they don't want to reform the system, they want to get rid of it. Maybe they realize that an outright ban won't work and are trying to backdoor it.

ETA: For the above, there are things they can do. One thing that comes to mind is the Minerva House system at Union College. Which oddly enough doesn't seem to cut on the amount of drinking.And honestly, they are a private school. They can boot particular problem children if they feel that it would make a difference.
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Old 11-30-2012, 02:50 PM
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Nothing is going to change at Trinity. Enough people aren't in these groups that the changes won't affect the party scene on a major basis, and for those who are members, all that will be accomplished is that they don't have a formal name to label them.

Those who go there will just find other ways to get around the rules (just like the students at every other college or university). Heck, they even have a shuttle bus to the Hartford bars.
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Old 11-30-2012, 02:53 PM
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Well, okay, what CAN the administration do to change campus culture? Young adults living alone for the first time are gonna experiment, can that ever be changed?
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If they want to reform the campus culture, they have to change the kinds of students they admit.
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Old 11-30-2012, 06:33 PM
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If they don't want to have a culture of privilege and elitism, then they should probably relocate the college out of the Northeast...
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Old 11-30-2012, 07:27 PM
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That's not what I said. But if you look at it per-capita, this area is well known for having more than its share.
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Old 11-30-2012, 07:39 PM
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Considering they say they same thing about Greeks at 90% of schools, elitism isn't just limited to the Northeast. Not sure where you're from, but I guarantee it's there too.
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Old 11-30-2012, 07:51 PM
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Um, how can they force an NPC (Kappa Kappa Gamma) to go coed?
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Old 11-30-2012, 08:11 PM
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Um, how can they force an NPC (Kappa Kappa Gamma) to go coed?
They can't, but they don't have to recognize them as a student organization if they don't go co-ed. Which means, as others have said, they will drive the groups underground and won't have any control over them then.
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Old 11-30-2012, 09:27 PM
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Similar to the GLOs at Harvard or Princeton (one of the Ivy schools) and at Santa Clara (maybe one or two other schools), why couldn’t the GLOs simply not be “officially” recognized by Trinity yet continue to be recognized by their HQ?
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Old 11-30-2012, 09:43 PM
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Similar to the GLOs at Harvard or Princeton (one of the Ivy schools) and at Santa Clara (maybe one or two other schools), why couldn’t the GLOs simply not be “officially” recognized by Trinity yet continue to be recognized by their HQ?
This logically could happen, but (someone correct me if I'm wrong), not if they're coed
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Old 11-30-2012, 10:26 PM
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This logically could happen, but (someone correct me if I'm wrong), not if they're coed
I agree. What I meant was that the chapters would remain single-sex GLOs and (perhaps with the exception of Delta Psi which is already co-ed) and no longer be officially recognized by the university. Yet the HQs would continue to recognize the chapters.
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Old 11-30-2012, 11:11 PM
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I agree. What I meant was that the chapters would remain single-sex GLOs and (perhaps with the exception of Delta Psi which is already co-ed) and no longer be officially recognized by the university. Yet the HQs would continue to recognize the chapters.
Gotcha--I misread and think that is probably the best route for all of them
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