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11-30-2012, 12:36 PM
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The thing is, they are not trying to reform the campus culture. Instead they are trying to kill one of the more visible examples of the drinking culture, but I doubt all the people going to the parties are Greek.
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11-30-2012, 01:47 PM
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The thing is, they are not trying to reform the campus culture. Instead they are trying to kill one of the more visible examples of the drinking culture, but I doubt all the people going to the parties are Greek.
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Exactly. They think "ha ha, the rich kids can't have their fun now" when the rich kids will go right on having their fun - and will probably have even more fun since they will (the majority of them) no longer have to pay national dues. If they want to reform the campus culture, they have to change the kinds of students they admit.
I also LOL every time they think that going co-ed is the solution. Does anyone remember in Pledged how she was talking about a co-ed fraternity that drank its asses off and were all having sex with each other? But of course, she was OK with it because they didn't have evil exclusionary membership selection practices like a sorority. Eric Cartman sums it up:
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12-02-2012, 09:16 PM
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Exactly. They think "ha ha, the rich kids can't have their fun now" when the rich kids will go right on having their fun - and will probably have even more fun since they will (the majority of them) no longer have to pay national dues. If they want to reform the campus culture, they have to change the kinds of students they admit.
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I think this IS part of Trinity trying to change the kinds of students who would even be interested in applying there. Around here, it's got a reputation for being a place for upper middle-class white students from the New York and Boston suburbs, who had decent grades but no admissions "hook" for an Ivy, as well as for international students (who also tend to be wealthy because most colleges don't offer financial aid for international students).
Because of that reputation, they have a hard time attracting first-generation college students, as well as students of color. They also don't have very generous financial aid. They want to make themselves look more inclusive by getting rid of what some deanery see as a last bastion of white male dominance on college campus (their ire doesn't usually extend to NPHC groups).
Yes, there is a major irony in schools with tuition bills larger than the median US household income accusing the Greek system of being "elitist."
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12-02-2012, 10:55 PM
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I think this IS part of Trinity trying to change the kinds of students who would even be interested in applying there. Around here, it's got a reputation for being a place for upper middle-class white students from the New York and Boston suburbs, who had decent grades but no admissions "hook" for an Ivy, as well as for international students (who also tend to be wealthy because most colleges don't offer financial aid for international students).
Because of that reputation, they have a hard time attracting first-generation college students, as well as students of color. They also don't have very generous financial aid. They want to make themselves look more inclusive by getting rid of what some deanery see as a last bastion of white male dominance on college campus (their ire doesn't usually extend to NPHC groups).
Yes, there is a major irony in schools with tuition bills larger than the median US household income accusing the Greek system of being "elitist."
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Co-sign. Unfortunately, they will never be able to attract a different type of student without greatly reducing tuition, which may then cause the school to have to reduce the program offerings which make it attractive to begin with.
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12-08-2012, 10:00 AM
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Originally Posted by Munchkin03
I think this IS part of Trinity trying to change the kinds of students who would even be interested in applying there. Around here, it's got a reputation for being a place for upper middle-class white students from the New York and Boston suburbs, who had decent grades but no admissions "hook" for an Ivy, as well as for international students (who also tend to be wealthy because most colleges don't offer financial aid for international students).
Because of that reputation, they have a hard time attracting first-generation college students, as well as students of color. They also don't have very generous financial aid. They want to make themselves look more inclusive by getting rid of what some deanery see as a last bastion of white male dominance on college campus (their ire doesn't usually extend to NPHC groups).
Yes, there is a major irony in schools with tuition bills larger than the median US household income accusing the Greek system of being "elitist."
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Trinity is kind of a weird school. It's really not in a great area at all (I work in Hartford, grew up in the region and am familiar with the area), but markets itself as a upper-echelon school. Plus, there's a similar school nearby (Wesleyan) with a better academic reputation and in a safer area (Middletown). I work with some Trinity grads who are very bright and have done well, so they are doing something right academically.
I didn't realize they were stingy on aid; I got some academic prize in high school where they paid for my admission fee and I ended up with some solid academic scholarship offers. That may have been an effort to attract local kids, though.
ETA: For the list of orgs, I think Kappa Sig also has a chapter at the school.
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