NPHC Members To Be Among Gamma Chis for Fall 2012 NPC Recruitment (Miss. State)

[DrPhil]

Originally Posted by DGTess

Why would anyone who's not involved with rush at that campus even be concerned about this, much less opposed?

For the same reason you shared your opinion.

[Senusret I]

Originally Posted by DGTess

Why would anyone who's not involved with rush at that campus even be concerned about this, much less opposed?

Whatever works for that campus....

Yup.

[PsychTau]

I think being a good Gamma Chi is more about the "counseling" aspect of things instead of the "structure/process" part of recruitment. Someone can always look at a piece of paper and read the directions on how many chapters they can rank (and they can always ask another Gamma Chi for help with that part) but I think the magic happens when a Gamma Chi can help a crying girl work through her disappointment and convince her to at least attend the parties she has that day, THEN decide whether or not she wants to drop out. Some people have that gift of being able to talk others through a difficult situation and you need those people as Gamma Chis. That's what keeps women in recruitment and helps them find their home.

I love this idea!

[Low C Sharp]

Jen, you just made me picture a Sassy Gay Friend as a Gamma Chi. And the picture is kind of awesome.

[AZ-AlphaXi]

Here's what the NPC MOI (aka Green Book) says about recruitment counselors

Recruitment counselors are undergraduate chapter members in good standing
and who:
1. Are dependable, responsible and available to the Potential New Member.
2. Are enthusiastic and have a positive attitude toward
fraternity experiences.
3. Are objective and impartial in opinions.
4. Have good listening skills and the ability and willingness to
keep confidences.
5. Are sensitive and perceptive of another’s feelings while
remaining objective.
6. Are representative of the best qualities of a Panhellenic woman.
7. Are willing to refrain from contacting their own chapter members in
order to reveal confidential information obtained from a PNM.

Resolved (1993), That because collegiate membership recruitment
counselors function as a committee of the local College Panhellenic during
membership recruitment, they shall be in good standing in their member
groups, be active participants in the collegiate chapter and shall be enrolled
in the institution where the chapter is located.

[FSUZeta]

Originally Posted by AZ-AlphaXi

Here's what the NPC MOI (aka Green Book) says about recruitment counselors

Recruitment counselors are undergraduate chapter members in good standing
and who:
1. Are dependable, responsible and available to the Potential New Member.
2. Are enthusiastic and have a positive attitude toward
fraternity experiences.
3. Are objective and impartial in opinions.
4. Have good listening skills and the ability and willingness to
keep confidences.
5. Are sensitive and perceptive of another’s feelings while
remaining objective.
6. Are representative of the best qualities of a Panhellenic woman.
7. Are willing to refrain from contacting their own chapter members in
order to reveal confidential information obtained from a PNM.

Resolved (1993), That because collegiate membership recruitment
counselors function as a committee of the local College Panhellenic during
membership recruitment, they shall be in good standing in their member
groups, be active participants in the collegiate chapter and shall be enrolled
in the institution where the chapter is located.

perhaps i am reading this wrong, but unless the NPHC members sororities are not members of the college panhellenic-meaning they are members of the NPHC at MSU-then it appears that MSU is not following NPC recommendations.

And thank you AZ-AlphaXi for finding this.

[Old_Row]

Originally Posted by FSUZeta

perhaps i am reading this wrong, but unless the NPHC members sororities are not members of the college panhellenic-meaning they are members of the NPHC at MSU-then it appears that MSU is not following NPC recommendations.

And thank you AZ-AlphaXi for finding this.

Don't the NPHC, MCGLOs etc. sometimes all fall under the umbrella of the Panhellenic council at schools? It doesn't appear to be the case at MSU, but it seems like I've seen things structured that way at other schools.

[knight_shadow]

Originally Posted by Old_Row

Don't the NPHC, MCGLOs etc. sometimes all fall under the umbrella of the Panhellenic council at schools? It doesn't appear to be the case at MSU, but it seems like I've seen things structured that way at other schools.

The only time I've seen these groups under the same council has been in the case of "All Greek Councils"

[Ch2tf]

Originally Posted by knight_shadow

The only time I've seen these groups under the same council has been in the case of "All Greek Councils"

Or just not enough non-NPC orgs to have a separate council. I advise at a school where there are only 2 cultural/MCGLOs in total, 1 fraternity and 1 sorority. TNX is an associate member of the CPC, as college rules require they associate with a council, but there is only one.

[Mevara]

Originally Posted by FSUZeta

perhaps i am reading this wrong, but unless the NPHC members sororities are not members of the college panhellenic-meaning they are members of the NPHC at MSU-then it appears that MSU is not following NPC recommendations.

And thank you AZ-AlphaXi for finding this.

I didn't read any of that saying they had to be part of Panhellenic. It just said they were "a committee of the Panhellenic". It also said "good standing of their member group", again not Panhellenic. Maybe it is just me being too literal but I don't think they are breaking any NPC recommendation.

[AGDLynn]

According to the MSU website, they are two separate Panhellenic groups.

[DeltaBetaBaby]

I said it elsewhere, but I'll say it again:

Many women who go through recruitment have great (or at least good) experiences the whole way through. Thinking that they can relate to women who are getting heavily cut just because both have been through formal recruitment is a huge mistake. Yet, many of us would agree that consoling disappointed PNM's (and encouraging them to stay!) is one of the most important things that a gamma chi does.

So, if you think that NPHC women are not qualified to do this, I think that you should also never have gamma chis who got their top choices each round.

[carnation]

Originally Posted by DeltaBetaBaby

So, if you think that NPHC women are not qualified to do this, I think that you should also never have gamma chis who got their top choices each round.

Hey, that's pretty good. It's awful watching someone who got all her choices go off on someone who hardly has any. Yeah, she'd come apart too if it had happened to her and the PNM knows it.

[TriDeltaSallie]

This just seems strange to me. I can't imagine being a PNM with a Gamma Chi who wasn't a member of the organizations. I would questions her ability to be thoroughly knowledgeable. I know that there are clueless Gamma Chis from NPC groups, but I agree with the previous comment that this is a misguided attempt at diversity.

I also think alums of groups not on campus is a really interesting idea. Alums would have much more to offer in terms of objectivity and a bit of life perspective.

[sigmadiva]

Originally Posted by DeltaBetaBaby

I said it elsewhere, but I'll say it again:

Many women who go through recruitment have great (or at least good) experiences the whole way through. Thinking that they can relate to women who are getting heavily cut just because both have been through formal recruitment is a huge mistake. Yet, many of us would agree that consoling disappointed PNM's (and encouraging them to stay!) is one of the most important things that a gamma chi does.

So, if you think that NPHC women are not qualified to do this, I think that you should also never have gamma chis who got their top choices each round.

Well, if the only issue about NPC recruitment is to console a crying young woman who does not get her choices, or is dropped, then yeah, I guess anyone can be a gamma chi.