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03-10-2009, 06:24 PM
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Originally Posted by deepimpact2
Actually I did read, which is why I said he was lying. He's going on the assumption that people aren't familiar with the store enough to know the difference.
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So your first argument was that the area was not accessible to customers, so when that what proved wrong, now you're saying it's b/c the manager said it's because ppl aren't familiar with the store layout?
Like epchick said, it's not hard to do what this random customer did.
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03-12-2009, 11:00 AM
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Actually I did read, which is why I said he was lying. He's going on the assumption that people aren't familiar with the store enough to know the difference.
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and you're going in with the assumption he's lying. not everyone can be everywhere all the time.
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03-10-2009, 06:15 PM
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This is why racism still exists..people always find a way to dance around it or excuse it.
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No. No. No.
Racism isn't contingent upon any of this. LOL.
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03-10-2009, 06:19 PM
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No. No. No.
Racism isn't contingent upon any of this. LOL.
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Actually it is. I don't know if you were being sarcastic or not, and at this point I don't care. One of the main reasons racism is continuing to linger is that nothing is being done about it. When things like this happen, everyone wants to find excuses for it and brush it under the rug. It was the same thing with that cartoon in the NY post. Excuses were made for that. The powers that be told everyone it wasn't racist, people bought it. The end.
Not to mention the fact that there is something inherently wrong when these entities think it is okay to blatantly disrespect the President of the United States in this manner.
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03-10-2009, 06:22 PM
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Originally Posted by deepimpact2
Actually it is. I don't know if you were being sarcastic or not, and at this point I don't care. One of the main reasons racism is continuing to linger is that nothing is being done about it. When things like this happen, everyone wants to find excuses for it and brush it under the rug. It was the same thing with that cartoon in the NY post. Excuses were made for that. The powers that be told everyone it wasn't racist, people bought it. The end.
Not to mention the fact that there is something inherently wrong when these entities think it is okay to blatantly disrespect the President of the United States in this manner.
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The NY Post was different in that the management KNEW what they were doing...you cannot compare what they were doing to this.
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03-10-2009, 06:27 PM
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One of the main reasons racism is continuing to linger is that nothing is being done about it.
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No.
Racism lingers because people (in general) are looking for, and are outraged over, displays at B&N and email forwards of watermelon patches.
If all of that stuff ends and prejudiced people keep their opinions to themselves because they don't want to offend black folks and spark an NAACP march...racism still will not end.
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03-11-2009, 12:46 AM
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Originally Posted by deepimpact2
Actually it is. I don't know if you were being sarcastic or not, and at this point I don't care. One of the main reasons racism is continuing to linger is that nothing is being done about it. When things like this happen, everyone wants to find excuses for it and brush it under the rug. It was the same thing with that cartoon in the NY post. Excuses were made for that. The powers that be told everyone it wasn't racist, people bought it. The end.
Not to mention the fact that there is something inherently wrong when these entities think it is okay to blatantly disrespect the President of the United States in this manner.
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I think wearing shirts and using slogans such as "Do you smell what Barrack is cooking" and "Barrack the Vote" are blatant disrespect of the Presidency. Do you agree with that?
It was some stupid customer. Do you really think an employee would risk their job pulling a prank like this? Especially when jobs are hard to come by these days. And if it had been an employee, I'm sure someone would have found out and they would have gotten fired. That still does not make B&N as a national the bad guy.
Think of it this way. I'm assuming you're a member of a Greek organization. How would you feel if there was some random person, who hung out with members of your organization, did something horribly wrong... and other unknowing people thought this person was a member of your org, started boycotting it and spreading around how bad this org was?
One bad apple doesn't make a whole entity guilty... and this bad apple wasn't even a member of their team.
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03-12-2009, 11:03 AM
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these entities think it is okay to blatantly disrespect the President of the United States in this manner.
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kind of like the same entities who sell anti bush t shirts and those who showed the W movie?
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03-10-2009, 06:20 PM
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Originally Posted by deepimpact2
Apparently you and many other people keep missing the part about that display not being in an area accessible to customers.
This is why racism still exists..people always find a way to dance around it or excuse it.
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This isn't anything to be danced around...it's really a non news item...
and FWIW...it also could have easily been an employee...this isn't something that we can hang over all of B&N.
For the time it took for someone to take the picture, they could have easily walked into the store, talked to the floor manager, see what feedback the floor manager gave AND IF they got back less than satisfactory explanation, made something out of it.
Let's ask, why in this whole chain of events, that didn't happen?
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03-10-2009, 06:24 PM
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This isn't anything to be danced around...it's really a non news item...
and FWIW...it also could have easily been an employee...this isn't something that we can hang over all of B&N.
For the time it took for someone to take the picture, they could have easily walked into the store, talked to the floor manager, see what feedback the floor manager gave AND IF they got back less than satisfactory explanation, made something out of it.
Let's ask, why in this whole chain of events, that didn't happen?
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That doesn't seem suspicious to me at all. FWIW someone could have, but they chose to ignore it and they certainly wouldn't reveal that.
And I disagree about it being a non news item. It's a big issue. I'm glad someone decided to make people aware.
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03-10-2009, 06:28 PM
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That doesn't seem suspicious to me at all. FWIW someone could have, but they chose to ignore it and they certainly wouldn't reveal that.
And I disagree about it being a non news item. It's a big issue. I'm glad someone decided to make people aware.
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I got an e mail about it last week and KIM...there are a few things worth not raising an alarm over and this was one...
I disagree...if someone felt that the window was a problem, they should have gone into the store rather than try to pin the entirety of B&N.
If it was a bunch of B&Ns that did that display under auspicies of management that would ahve been one thing...but one randam store???
NNNnaaaaaaaahhhh.....
Sweetie....you gotta back off of this one....come in off tha' ledge.
ETA There is a reason why this DIDN'T make news...google it and see what you find.
**Must be sad when you quantify news by how many hits you get from google!**
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03-10-2009, 06:32 PM
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And I disagree about it being a non news item. It's a big issue. I'm glad someone decided to make people aware.
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It's such a big issue that (THANK GOD) it hasn't received much attention.
Some things truly are a matter of sweating the small stuff.
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03-10-2009, 06:14 PM
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Those Drunken Negro Cookies were just ugly. They probably tasted great.
The person who did that wanted 15 minutes of infamy(sp). I'm sure the sales for that place have increased since then.
Last edited by DrPhil; 03-10-2009 at 06:18 PM.
Reason: wrong "sales" LOL
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03-10-2009, 06:24 PM
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Those Drunken Negro Cookies were just ugly. They probably tasted great.
The person who did that wanted 15 minutes of infamy(sp). I'm sure the sales for that place have increased since then.
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I doubt it, only because I've been there....that place is GROSS!
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03-10-2009, 06:29 PM
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I doubt it, only because I've been there....that place is GROSS!
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Darnit!!!
So they REALLY needed that publicity. They dropped the ball.
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