My Spring '09 recruitment! - Page 2

BetteDavisEyes · #1 10-02-2008, 10:50 PM

Live and learn.

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Good-luck.

nittanyalum · #2 10-03-2008, 08:49 AM

^^^Didn't you serve overseas in the military? How can you say you haven't been exposed to diversity? Every time you post now you try to come across as a miss-goody-two-shoes. GC memory's too long for that.

als463 · #3 10-03-2008, 09:03 AM

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Originally Posted by nittanyalum

^^^Didn't you serve overseas in the military? How can you say you haven't been exposed to diversity? Every time you post now you try to come across as a miss-goody-two-shoes. GC memory's too long for that.

I did serve overseas (once I was in college). I was pulled out after completing my first semester. In fact, until I joined my sorority (when I returned from overseas) I never had a Jewish friend. In my area-it's pretty tiny with pretty much no diversity. Maybe I did have a Jewish friend (in the military) but, I didn't realize he/ she was Jewish. I remember people complaining at PSU that there was little to no diversity (usually the kids from bigger cities) and I would look at them like they were crazy. If you check out the statistics from my high school-it's about 99% Caucasian. Plus, it's a small school where we only graduated about 180 in my class. Thankfully to the military and my collegiate experience, I have encountered many other great and diverse groups of people but, before that-I hadn't.

I'm not trying to come off as "miss-goody-two-shoes" so, please don't think that...I was simply stating that even hearing that term was new to me. The first time I ever even heard that term was about a year or two ago (unless people have said it around me and I never paid any attention because I had no clue what the hell it meant). I asked my friends back home and my mom if they all knew what it meant and they all thought it dealt with people from an Asian background, as well. So, when I heard it explained-it seemed to hold a negative connotation to me. I assume I'm right-so, I would figure people wouldn't be so quick to label themselves as such.

lilzetakitten · #4 10-03-2008, 09:23 AM

Good luck with recruitment, OP!
And jumping on the 'JAP' bandwagon... my FI's initials are JAP. I'm really glad he never uses them.

honeychile · #5 10-03-2008, 10:38 AM

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Originally Posted by alum

I assume the OP's jappy reference is a stereotype on new money, wealthy Jewish girls. Is Jappy any worse than WASPy?

I find them equally offensive

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Originally Posted by SWTXBelle

I personally don't like being called a WASP.

Nor do I. I never heard the term until I was in high school, and even then, it was said very disparagingly.

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Originally Posted by VandalSquirrel

It is on my birth certificate, how strange is that?

VERY strange! I thought I had seen it all when it comes to vital documents! Yikes!

Seriously, for those of you all who think someone is flattered to be called a WASP, you are very mistaken. I can only imagine that using JAP would be so, too.

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ForeverRoses · #6 10-03-2008, 10:59 AM

My obnoxious grandmother gave me this paperdoll set for my birthday when I was a kid. Even then I knew it was odd. As an adult, I cannot imagine calling someone that. Let alone giving this to a child to play with. I don't like the term WASP either. (and for the record I'm Catholic so I don't fall into either stereotype).

And race/ethnicity of my parents isn't on my birth certificate. Only my parents names & place of birth.

VandalSquirrel · #7 10-03-2008, 01:39 PM

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Originally Posted by honeychile

I find them equally offensive

Nor do I. I never heard the term until I was in high school, and even then, it was said very disparagingly.

VERY strange! I thought I had seen it all when it comes to vital documents! Yikes!

Seriously, for those of you all who think someone is flattered to be called a WASP, you are very mistaken. I can only imagine that using JAP would be so, too.

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This is the state of California "Certificate of Live Birth" if you're interested, and right after the race or color box for my father, it asks what my father's present or last occupation was, and the next box is kind of industry or business. It has no place for the mother's profession. it also lists their birth places and social security numbers.

ellebud · #8 10-03-2008, 01:14 PM

So, I looked at my birth certificate, old and crinkled with age. It says Race: Caucasian, Jewish. My parents' birthcertificates were also in the folder, for my father (who was born in 1910...yes, he was in his mid 40s when I was born) there was a place for race (and please forgive the next) and a space for Negro as a separate category.

As far as "Jap" vs. JAP vs. WASP: I think that anytime one marginalizes a group of people by a sterotype it is unfortunate. And, scientifically speaking probably not accurate.

ellebud · #9 10-03-2008, 01:28 PM

Please add: Marginalize or insults or defames a group of people. And the use of the word "unfortunate" is a credit to my mother who would use that word in the strongest possible way.

ellebud · #10 10-10-2008, 03:56 PM

thank you for the chuckle! I think that everyone needs one nowadays!

paulam · #11 10-10-2008, 04:41 PM

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Originally Posted by ellebud

thank you for the chuckle! I think that everyone needs one nowadays!

It is so silly but I couldn't help laughing! We all do need one now.

PaulaM
Sigma Delta Tau
Patrae Multi Spes Una
One Hope of Many People

Benzgirl · #12 10-10-2008, 06:50 PM

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Originally Posted by paulam

It is so silly but I couldn't help laughing! We all do need one now.

PaulaM
Sigma Delta Tau
Patrae Multi Spes Una
One Hope of Many People

I would like to borrow it for an Orthodox friend of mine.

sailboatgirl · #13 10-10-2008, 07:53 PM

I think the term JAP is offensive. I am Jewish...my father treated me like a princess, but I am NOT a JAP.

Just my two cents.

Oh, and I loved the bee joke, too!

fantASTic · #14 10-10-2008, 04:06 PM

If the girls in that sorority refer to themselves as JAPs, then it is only fair that others be allowed to do the same. If they don't call themselves that, then they probably consider it offensive and it shouldn't be used.

ajmom3 · #15 10-11-2008, 11:33 AM

The term JAP is offensive but only to a point. It is an acronym for Jewish American Princess and used to describe a whiney, overindulged, rich (via parents) girl who is ultra materialistic, shallow and usually "elitist". That said, many true JAPS that I know secretly are proud to be considered in that category. There is a certain JAP uniform look as well (straight hair...usually chemically done, perfect sized bought and paid for nose, designer pocketbooks, tight expensive jeans paired with stilletto heals and too much gaudy but gold jewelry).