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Old 06-12-2008, 07:53 PM
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Thanks for posting this Nate.
I heard about this site while on way to gym.
Guess it is a sign of the times when one has to put up a site like this
Unfortunately, IMVHO, the people who "should/need to" see it either will not or just not care to believe in it.

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Old 06-12-2008, 09:09 PM
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Thanks for posting this Nate.
I heard about this site while on way to gym.
Guess it is a sing of the times when one has to put up a site like this
Unfortunately, IMVHO, the people who "should/need to" see it either will not or just not care to believe in it.
yeah i don't believe it.
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Old 06-12-2008, 10:28 PM
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yeah i don't believe it.
And these?:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/0...o_n_94833.html

Flawed Cindy McCain has a grudge list

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/new...cle3295472.ece

Hey, we all can choose to believe in what we wish to.
However, we should at least attempt to differentiate between rumors, innuendos and facts. Even if those facts go against what we, for what ever reason(s), wish to think or believe.

I am far from prefect. I believe in ghosts. In part because I believe I have seen them. Twice.
Have no proof.
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Old 06-12-2008, 10:35 PM
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And these?:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/0...o_n_94833.html

Flawed Cindy McCain has a grudge list

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/new...cle3295472.ece

Hey, we all can choose to believe in what we wish to.
However, we should at least attempt to differentiate between rumors, innuendos and facts. Even if those facts go against what we, for what ever reason(s), wish to think or believe.

I am far from prefect. I believe in ghosts. In part because I believe I have seen them. Twice.
Have no proof.
Article 1: I fail to see a problem with that.

Article 2: A UK site, seriously?
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Old 06-12-2008, 10:41 PM
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Article 1: I fail to see a problem with that.

Article 2: A UK site, seriously?
You have problems with news sites out side of the US?
Here is same site with article about:
Barack Obama sets up internet 'war room' to fight slurs

Internet ‘war room’ will rebuff false rumours

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/new...cle4100170.ece

I think you posted something very close to this.

And this story, about FOX News is linked off of it:
Fox News slammed over "Obama's baby mama" jibe
Just 48 hours after being forced to demote an anchor for describing an Obama hand gesture as a "terrorist fist jab", Fox News has jumped right back into the fray, this time drawing outrage with a racist reference to the Democratic nominee's wife..........
http://timesonline.typepad.com/usele...ws-slamme.html

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Old 06-13-2008, 02:21 AM
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So they played on something that she said and now it's racist? is that what happened? I honestly thought that phrase was pretty common place now, "baby mama".
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Old 06-13-2008, 06:11 AM
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So they played on something that she said and now it's racist? is that what happened? I honestly thought that phrase was pretty common place now, "baby mama".
I would say it's common place for an out of wedlock situation. She is his wife, not his baby mama. They aren't referring to McCain's wife as his baby mama, are they?
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Old 06-13-2008, 06:29 AM
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So they played on something that she said and now it's racist? is that what happened? I honestly thought that phrase was pretty common place now, "baby mama".
It's comon place but on a 'reputable' news station is not the place for that type of comment. Save that for out and about with your friends.


Hmmmm...sounds like a setup for When "Keepin' it real" Goes Wrong.
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Old 06-13-2008, 08:29 AM
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So they played on something that she said and now it's racist? is that what happened? I honestly thought that phrase was pretty common place now, "baby mama".
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I would say it's common place for an out of wedlock situation. She is his wife, not his baby mama. They aren't referring to McCain's wife as his baby mama, are they?
From one of the linked news stories:
"Politico cites a Fox staffer as saying that others internally were bothered by the use of the offensive epithet - derogatory hip-hop slang for "the mother of your child(ren), whom you did not marry and with whom you are not currently involved", according to the Urban Dictionary."

And it seems as if this is just the start of what maybe multi-pronged effort by the GOP, and operatives, against the Obama's:
Michelle Obama becomes GOP target
http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0608/11044.html

Rezko: Feds pushed for dirt on Obama
http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0608/11041.html
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Old 06-13-2008, 08:38 AM
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Of course I would be upset, no, actually, suicidal. But I do understand the concept of both sides participating in the mud slinging.

But I feel like McCain won't have as much to defend that hasn't already been exposed, whereas almost everything bad about Obama will be new to the national spotlight. Do you see what I mean?
I wouldn't mind a dirty election because I think Barack would suffer more from one than John.
When you say "everything bad" do you mean:
1) Things that "you" just do not like, yet are true?
2) Things that are intentional distortions of the truth?
3) Things that are out right false, but what "you" either wish were true or just made up to fit a curtain picture or mold?

And how would you feel if there is a back-latch against mud-slinging that causes the GOP to lose?
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Old 06-13-2008, 10:01 AM
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The "baby momma" comment is somewhat absurd (I mean, replaying what she said is one thing...), but I'll care about this as soon as I see the MSM start crying about Olbermann calling Bush a coward and a war criminal.

Fox News receives an inordinate amount of rebuke, but I guess thats to be expected when you're stomping the $%#@ out of your liberal competitors.
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Old 06-13-2008, 11:43 PM
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My only reaction was I thought it was a stupid reference to current movie.
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Old 06-15-2008, 08:12 AM
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I'm referring to 1 and 2.
3 is pretty low, in my opinion, and I'm a little put-off that you would even suggest it. I honestly think it's rare when someone will make up something completely. Even the rumor that Obama is a muslim was just an extreme exaggeration.

I've already answered the bolded question once. I would be upset and embarassed if the GOP lost this election, especially if mud-slinging was involved on both sides, because Obama has more fault to expose.
you know what I find absolutely hilarious...is that people are now screamig that like what you just said: "Obama has more fault to expose" but yet at the same time you all say "Obama is inexperienced". Make up your damned minds already...if anything since McCain is he more senior of the 2 in both years and time served in Congress...would he not be the one with "more fault to expose."

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Old 06-15-2008, 09:36 AM
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if anything since McCain is he more senior of the 2 in both years and time served in Congress...would he not be the one with "more fault to expose
McCain has a very solid voting record, which will back up what he stands for. Obama has a voting record thats just perplexing. And its not that long.
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Old 06-15-2008, 10:42 AM
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McCain has a very solid voting record, which will back up what he stands for. Obama has a voting record thats just perplexing. And its not that long.
so what is 'the more fault' part which is what I am trying to understand....and he may have a 'solid' voting record...it's just whether the american people will like the 'solidity' of his record....
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