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04-14-2007, 03:37 PM
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If Don Imus wasn't making ookabillion bucks a year, he would still be employed by CBS.
Also, I don't even want to get into the hilarity of Les Moonves getting high and mighty about morals or anything anyone says anytime anywhere.
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04-14-2007, 04:09 PM
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Originally Posted by AKA_Monet
My boss often says folks can "say" what they want, look beyond that. What counts is their actions. But, my collegiate education said "word is bond" and "words are powerful, they are symbols of ideas" or "one word can change a persons life".
Again, we have GC racial stratification, which is an interesting outcome and concept here. No one really knows what one looks like except a few people around here. And most of us who decide to state what ethnic category we support (for today--that's a side issue). And we still are stratifying and not coming together toward working to change "processing errors".
Look, this cat, Imus, was thrown to the wolves. The reason he was, because MSNBC does not know how to get rid of him legally. He says something ignorant, then they have justification they need.
Yes, he'll probably get a Sirius show and make all the money we wants. So what really happen? Imus is not showing "remorse". He's doing the remorseful thing by speaking to the parents and the young ladies on the Rutgers team. But remorse? Remorseful for what he thought and said? No.
So why is a few stupid words and choice of language made this man take a media-public flogging?
C'mon, folks, this is a set up! Either he or MSNBC wanted out. That's the only way to explain it. Then he comes up looking redeemed so that "we" can us Jesus to view his salvation and forgiveness. Oldest trick in the book...
Am I upset he said it? Not really. It definitely does not pay my light bill.
Did he hurt these young ladies self-esteem? Maybe, because what he really was saying is they play like crap and he used mental images as to how.
But there is a deeper issue here and there has always, IMO, a denigration of women of African descent. And making ourselves look attractive even to our own men has been very difficult. Saying those words, "nappy headed ho", means on the street a woman who cannot take care of herself, usually a Black female prostitute who is on drugs.
And that is why the wolves were called out.
These bastketball players are not "black female prostitutes on drugs". They are all different kinds of backgrounds working very hard to go to college and play basketball. Now if they are not the BEST team, so be it. But, these young ladies did not deserve being called an implied definition of a "black female prostitute that is one drugs".
As far as rappers go, they have been told numerous times to be mindful of their "invocations". But that's another thread for a different day.
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Thank you very much for a great explanation!
If there are Blacks (Afro-Ameicans) who continually say these types of things then is it not expected for other races to pick up on it and use the same language?
If a Black Commedian such as Richard Pryor uses this type of word usage then why cannot others use it?
Some people do get over board about who can say certain words and who cannot!
The two biggest Black Morons are Jessie and Al!
They Preach forgiveness but they are the first to wade into a fight and embarras many Afro-Americans and they still give money to them!
Ask Jessie how much money He is giving a month for an of wedlock child? Maybe $8,500.00 a month! Where is He getting this money? Say Rainbow Coalition! Is that cool?
Now, where is the apology to the members of the Duke Lacross going to be coming from and when!
Oh, golly lets step over this and sweep it under the carpet!
It is not a one way street people it is a fact of life! DAH!
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04-14-2007, 04:58 PM
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Originally Posted by AKA_Monet
Yes, he'll probably get a Sirius show and make all the money we wants. So what really happen? Imus is not showing "remorse". He's doing the remorseful thing by speaking to the parents and the young ladies on the Rutgers team. But remorse? Remorseful for what he thought and said? No.
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Who are you to say he isn't showing remorse? The only person that is going to know if he truly is or not is him. For all that he has done since the incident, I'm interested to know why you feel you can consider him unremorseful for what he thought and said. I think he has made the effort. It's not like he pulled a Michael Richards and said he was "sorry and embarassed and blah blah blah" on Letterman.
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04-14-2007, 06:06 PM
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Who are you to say he isn't showing remorse? The only person that is going to know if he truly is or not is him. For all that he has done since the incident, I'm interested to know why you feel you can consider him unremorseful for what he thought and said. I think he has made the effort. It's not like he pulled a Michael Richards and said he was "sorry and embarassed and blah blah blah" on Letterman.
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He'll have to kill himself before some think there is any veracity to his "remorse".
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04-14-2007, 07:56 PM
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Originally Posted by shinerbock
I agree with PM's comments, Monet's comments were pretty crass.
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I believe that they were pretty crass as well. PM, however, hasn't been the best in terms of language and word use either. I was simply calling out hypocrisy.
I am so tired of this story, and I was almost as soon as it came out. Here in NYC, that's seriously all I'm hearing about. Yawn.
And Earp, please put down the bottle. Please?
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04-15-2007, 01:24 AM
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Ummm, it looks like she used that word in its usual connotation.
Also, look who's talking, Miss Prejudism.
I am so uninterested in Don Imus and what he said.
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I was being sarcastic. I don't really care how people write on here. As LoNg As ThEy ArE nOt TyPiNg LiKe ThIs. I just thought it was funny because she's always bragging about being a scholar.
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04-15-2007, 01:44 AM
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I just thought it was funny because she's always bragging about being a scholar.
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First I know you don't give a damn about me and you could care less what I say or what I want to do. So, claiming to be so pious and examine me to a fault, well, that is silly.
As a result, I tire of some aspects of GC and maybe I have outgrown it here and need to leave. Hey, I have not problem with folks disagreeing with my thoughts. But to be disagreeable to be right. Okay. Whatever. Good Luck With That...
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04-15-2007, 02:19 AM
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I am sorry, I like this:
And you can purchase T-shirts >HERE<
I know folks are very sensitive and that's cool. But, there is a reason for everything and a wrinkled up shriveled dicked balleress old dude was NEVER gonna get with any ho, nappy or otherwise...
And that's cool if some luser who cain't cum even with Cialis in the backyard bath wants to bash Athletetic or Black Women. That's the reason his wife left his ass in the first place.
But overall, Imus will be aiight. You all know this was a set up and a plant.
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Ya know, this topic is already bad enough, and if that's a real t-shirt, and someone (black or white) wears it in public, it's only going make the problem worse.
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04-15-2007, 02:24 AM
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I don't think it's realistic to expect anyone to forget that this language exists. That alone, however, does not condone usage. I think those are two very different issues.
In the situations above (mall, movies, school, etc.), do you see White people using this language towards Blacks with a positive outcome? I never have. That is why I don't understand the need or desire to continue trying.
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Coming from your posts you say that when blacks call each other nappy hoes it brings about a positve outcome? How so? I don't understand this train of thought.
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