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04-11-2005, 10:19 PM
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OK, I'm trying to be as sensitive as I can, since it's kind of a delicate issue. Some girls arrive on campus knowing they want to be Greek, but aren't sure which kind of GLO to join. If NPCs are the only ones on campus, then of course, they'll join NPC, but would opt for an Asian/Latin/NPHC/Multicultural GLO if it is available to them. Most people who join these GLOs (with the possible exception of a multicultural GLO) are members of minority ethnic groups. That's why diversity might be taken away from NPCs.
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no they won't. you make it like these girls want to be greek for the sake of being greek. who gives a shit whether or not predominantly white organizations are more diverse? they'll go where they're comfortable. if they don't feel comfortable in white sororities...you honestly think that they'll join that?
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04-11-2005, 10:24 PM
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OK, I'm trying to be as sensitive as I can, since it's kind of a delicate issue. Some girls arrive on campus knowing they want to be Greek, but aren't sure which kind of GLO to join. If NPCs are the only ones on campus, then of course, they'll join NPC, but would opt for an Asian/Latin/NPHC/Multicultural GLO if it is available to them. Most people who join these GLOs (with the possible exception of a multicultural GLO) are members of minority ethnic groups. That's why diversity might be taken away from NPCs.
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I disagree Taualumna, I think the young folks can discern for themselves what they feel which organization best fits them. And not all of them are so blind that they think they do not have any choices... I didn't see a lack of choice being a problem with Canadians when I was up their this weekend...  I saw plenty of opportunities available to triumph. Eventually, that will get filtered thru the universities and colleges.
As far as an "umbrella goes": I think it will be more of a "Olympic Rings" look in the end with each "color of the ring" interacting with another. Those who stay on the outter fringes of their ring color will deal with their own ethnic group's issues; whereas those who choose to interact and be in an totally different ring can. And I think folks will choose multiple rings--to be Lord of the Rings--so to speak...
I think those folks who choose organizations outside of their own ethnic group get labeled as "sellouts" by the immature children on this board. These brats fail to understand that it is more about what works best for these folks made a decisive choice about their organization, anytime.
As a side note: I think AGLO's will begin to define themselves the longer time their ethnic group lives in the United States. It just works that way out here. It happend to mostly all immigrant groups, forced or unforced. And it will be the same for the various Asian populations with the more globalization and interaction all of us inhabitants have on Earth...
That's just my opinion.
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04-11-2005, 10:34 PM
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I think those folks who choose organizations outside of their own ethnic group get labeled as "sellouts" by the immature children on this board. These brats fail to understand that it is more about what works best for these folks made a decisive choice about their organization, anytime.
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04-11-2005, 10:37 PM
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I'm sorry honey, I don't go that way... But that's so sweet of you though...
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04-11-2005, 10:41 PM
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lol, what's wrong with you????
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04-11-2005, 11:18 PM
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Personally, I'm worried that the new influx of multi-cultural and ethnic GLOs may take AWAY membership from NPC/NIC groups in campuses where membership is already pretty diverse.
I know it's not really any of my beeswax, but I'm also worried that years down the road, Asians (for example) who rush HWGLOs will be seen as white-washed and not "loyal" to their cultures the same way many African Americans are today.
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I'm sorry but I have to disagree - even in the context of UofT... any interest in the Greek system outside of the widely accepted "norm" (refering to the rich WASP segment) is a step forward for me...
An interest in GLOs, within a community that normally would have dismissed GLOs out of hand as the purvue of an elite 'ethnic' group, and most importantly combats or dispells this mis-labelling does a service to the whole of the greek community - specifically within a system that is unfairly marginallized because of community misconceptions...
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04-11-2005, 11:30 PM
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I'm sorry but I have to disagree - even in the context of UofT... any interest in the Greek system outside of the widely accepted "norm" (refering to the rich WASP segment) is a step forward for me...
An interest in GLOs, within a community that normally would have dismissed GLOs out of hand as the purvue of an elite 'ethnic' group, and most importantly combats or dispells this mis-labelling does a service to the whole of the greek community - specifically within a system that is unfairly marginallized because of community misconceptions...
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Aren't GLOs at U of T trying hard to become more diverse? If more "ethnic" GLOs decide to come to campus, wouldn't it slow down the process?
ETA: Rob, do you think ethnic GLOs would increase the interest in Greek Life for many students at U of T? Many students come from cultures where extra-curricular activities aren't really part of academic life. Students are just expected to go to school, study and get their degrees.
p.s. I was at AGD last month, the same day a New Member class was being held. I believe there are three girls (I've heard both three and four for the spring class, but I only saw three) who are going to be initiated in a few days and all three are Asian.
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04-12-2005, 01:16 AM
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I think those folks who choose organizations outside of their own ethnic group get labeled as "sellouts" by the immature children on this board. These brats fail to understand that it is more about what works best for these folks made a decisive choice about their organization, anytime.
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Some of them are "sellouts." It all depends on their rationale for joining their organization.
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04-12-2005, 01:18 AM
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Den we's gonna havta fight... Cuz Jet Li lookeded real fione in that french film...
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I saw him first!!!! Both of you need to back off!!!
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04-12-2005, 01:57 AM
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04-12-2005, 11:57 AM
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the need for political correctness, or 'diversity' by NPC/IFC org's...people gotta understand that people will join whatever org they feel comfortable in...whatever color they are! why the need for competition to see who will get get bragging rights for the most minorities?
(note: NOT addressed to everyone)
I'll never forget when I had dinner with one of my friend's parents...and we were discussing how I was a member of a multicultural sorority...and they were saying how their son was a member of a multicultural fraternity too...because it had 2 black members...
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04-12-2005, 03:21 PM
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WHY...
the need for political correctness, or 'diversity' by NPC/IFC org's...people gotta understand that people will join whatever org they feel comfortable in...whatever color they are! why the need for competition to see who will get get bragging rights for the most minorities?
(note: NOT addressed to everyone)
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I think many historically white GLOs want to rid themselves of the image that they're white only. GLOs are not the only groups who're trying to do that. Many other organizations are trying too, and often recruitment of minorities aren't easy because of language difficulties.
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04-12-2005, 03:43 PM
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I think many historically white GLOs want to rid themselves of the image that they're white only. GLOs are not the only groups who're trying to do that. Many other organizations are trying too, and often recruitment of minorities aren't easy because of language difficulties.
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But what my Soror is trying to point out is that this is wrong. It's not cool to recruit only for the sole purpose of wanting to rid the "White only" image because then whatever minorities are recruited aren't actually sisters, they are just good PR.
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04-12-2005, 05:06 PM
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But what my Soror is trying to point out is that this is wrong. It's not cool to recruit only for the sole purpose of wanting to rid the "White only" image because then whatever minorities are recruited aren't actually sisters, they are just good PR.
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I don't think there really are any schools that specifically target minorities, but at the same time, they do not want to be seen as predominantly white groups.
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04-12-2005, 06:01 PM
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Many other organizations are trying too, and often recruitment of minorities aren't easy because of language difficulties.
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Language has nothing to do with it. I can't believe I am reading this comment. You are saying that it is hard for NPC to recruit minority students because they don't speak English? I have never heard of this in my LIFE. I would say that most of the Latino, Asian, African American, etc. students at my university spoke English very well. What university do/did you attend where the minority students have such a widespread language problem that it affected your recruitment activities? We are not talking about the world population at large--we are talking about university women here. Again, language has nothing to do with women not joining NPC.
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