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Taualumna 04-07-2005 07:27 PM

Question about Asian GLOs
 
As I understand it, many Asian GLOs were founded at a time when NICs and NPCs excluded non-whites. Why aren't they as well known as the D9s? Why wasn't something like NPHC created?

Tom Earp 04-07-2005 07:31 PM

Maybe it is become of late coming of such Organizatins?

Not to say that some are not old, but there werent as many if any!

At what age of foundation does one use old?

Pre or just after 1900s.

Taualumna 04-07-2005 07:36 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Tom Earp
Maybe it is become of late coming of such Organizatins?

Not to say that some are not old, but there werent as many if any!

At what age of foundation does one use old?

Pre or just after 1900s.

"interwar" years or earlier.

Senusret I 04-07-2005 08:19 PM

Taualumna,

This is from my own research, so therefore, really just speculation.

From what I've seen, a good number of the oldest AGLOs are locals. VERY strong locals, but locals nonetheless. Some are very strong regionals. I don't have my notes, but maybe most were founded in the 50's and 60's.

Then a lot of AGLOs came about during the same time that MCGLOs came about....80's and 90's. A lot (in my opinion) are experiencing a pretty normal rate of growth and popularity for orgs of their age.

What do you think?

starang21 04-07-2005 08:25 PM

the asian people make up 3-4 percent of the overall population, and asian frats and sororities weren't at the forefront for social service and change for the asian community. the asian people have earned the title of the "model minority" from white people, partly due to the fact that many asians are less vocal in their struggle and are many times often forgotten in the list when it comes to minorities in america.

Tom Earp 04-07-2005 09:27 PM

Please give your venom a rest.:( Please also climb off of Your Anti Whitey soap box. You do You and Your Organization a ????!

I do not have any time date of Asian Greeks but it seems that they started becoming more popular in the recent past.

starang21 04-07-2005 09:30 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Tom Earp
Please give your venom a rest.:( Please also climb off of Your Anti Whitey soap box. You do You and Your Organization a ????!

I do not have any time date of Asian Greeks but it seems that they started becoming more popular in the recent past.

you're a moron. in no way was my post anti-whitey, you simpleton. get a clue, idiot.

jubilance1922 04-07-2005 11:49 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Tom Earp
Please give your venom a rest.:( Please also climb off of Your Anti Whitey soap box. You do You and Your Organization a ????!

I do not have any time date of Asian Greeks but it seems that they started becoming more popular in the recent past.

Nothing was wrong with his statement. I've heard similar comments from sociologists (who aren't Asian, in case you're wondering).

DeltaSigStan 04-08-2005 12:46 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by starang21
the asian people make up 3-4 percent of the overall population, and asian frats and sororities weren't at the forefront for social service and change for the asian community. the asian people have earned the title of the "model minority" from white people, partly due to the fact that many asians are less vocal in their struggle and are many times often forgotten in the list when it comes to minorities in america.
A-FUCKING-MEN Pinoy......

Since you don't have statistics like you said Tom, please come with some meat before you insert your opinion on Asians and Asian Greeks.

I wish someone would do a study on the growing number of white men with sick obsessive Asian fetishes (like getting mail order brides and befriending Asian men just to meet Asian girls)...I know they're small and docile or whatever, but Jesus, make your fondness for them at least decent...

On a serious note, I wish someone would do a study on the percentage of Asian men who date white women compared to White men who date Asian women. I believe that's the biggest gap there is in that regard.

TSteven 04-08-2005 01:30 AM

From the Lambda Phi Epsilon Fraternity web site.

about LFE

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Unprecedented Endeavors

On September 8, 1990, Lambda Phi Epsilon became the first and only nationally recognized Asian-American interest fraternity in the United States with the admission to the National Inter-fraternity Conference (NIC).
also...

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Legendary Beginnings

Ethnic fraternities first developed as a result of the need to share and celebrate diversity of cultural experiences. In 1916, the first Asian fraternity was founded at Cornell as Rho Psi, which now exists as an alumni club with chapters in New York, Hawaii, Philadelphia, Washington D.C. and Hong Kong. While the concept of brotherhood and unity isn't new, our dedication and commitment towards promoting it is. A new dynasty has arrived- here's our story...

Traditional Asian campus organizations were often split along lines of national origins. The lack of continuity among the memberships in those organizations meant that at best, student associations provided a circle of friends spanning the years of undergraduate study and at worst, a group of familiar strangers encountered during periodic social functions. The yearly turnover of most organizations' officers made it extremely difficult to pursue any extended project as each new officer core set its own agenda. A solution to this dilemma was the adoption of a fraternal social structure.

Not satisfied with the single Asian fraternity on the campus of University of California, Los Angeles, Lambda Phi Epsilon was founded on February 25, 1981, by principal founder Mr. Craig Ishigo and a group of eighteen other dedicated men. Noticing that Asian fraternities and sororities at the UC campuses were recognized as only service organization due to their memberships focus on Asians and to the exclusion of other ethnic groups, the goal of the founders was to transcend this limitation. The founders hoped to set new and higher standards of excellence for all Asian-interest organizations to follow, while feeling a need to offer a fraternity that would be recognized by the IFC and the Greek system. While the original charter focused on Asian-Pacifics, people from all ethnic backgrounds were welcome to join and support the brotherhood of Lambda Phi Epsilon. Their vision was that the members would eventually become the leaders of their respective communities and bridge the gaps that divided the Asian American community through the affiliation with a common organization. Mr. Craig Ishigo and Darryl L. Mu signed the charter as president and vice-president, respectively.

ladygreek 04-08-2005 02:02 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by FiReKraCkEr
Honestly, that's because white woman wouldn't put up with the shit (most) Asian men put woman through. That's because most boys born into an Asian families are spoiled rotten and their mothers do everything for them and when they get married, they expect it from their wives.

I said most, not all. That's just what I've seen from living in Korea and being a Korean daughter with a brother.

My dad is half-Korean, but he was aleast nice to all his wives. :)

The old "raise your daughters and love your sons" syndrome. Yeah it happens in the Black community, too. This is when daughters are raised to cater to the males in the family, even their brothers.

DSTCHAOS 04-08-2005 02:26 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by starang21
the asian people make up 3-4 percent of the overall population, and asian frats and sororities weren't at the forefront for social service and change for the asian community. the asian people have earned the title of the "model minority" from white people, partly due to the fact that many asians are less vocal in their struggle and are many times often forgotten in the list when it comes to minorities in america.

;)

Hi.

DSTCHAOS 04-08-2005 02:28 AM

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Originally posted by jubilance1922
Nothing was wrong with his statement. I've heard similar comments from sociologists (who aren't Asian, in case you're wondering).
Exactly. ;)

"Model minority" is what it is---a stereotype of Asians started by whites.

DSTCHAOS 04-08-2005 02:33 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by DeltaSigStan
I wish someone would do a study on the growing number of white men with sick obsessive Asian fetishes (like getting mail order brides and befriending Asian men just to meet Asian girls)...I know they're small and docile or whatever, but Jesus, make your fondness for them at least decent...

On a serious note, I wish someone would do a study on the percentage of Asian men who date white women compared to White men who date Asian women. I believe that's the biggest gap there is in that regard.

The studies that have been done are mostly qualitative, so they do not include or compare statistics for Asian men and women.

You specifically have to look up topics dealing with race and ethnic intermarriage. Some basic race and ethnic relations text books also discuss the "Asian woman fetish," the "model minority" stereotype, and rates of intermarriage for Asians.

Unfortunately, Asian Americans have largely been overlooked but social scientists are trying to correct this error.

DSTCHAOS 04-08-2005 02:34 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Tom Earp
Please give your venom a rest.:( Please also climb off of Your Anti Whitey soap box. You do You and Your Organization a ????!

I do not have any time date of Asian Greeks but it seems that they started becoming more popular in the recent past.

We can always count on a DUMB post from Earpspeak.


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