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Originally posted by Rudey
the issues of today were not around at the time of the framing of the constitution.
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This seems non sequitur, unless you can tie that in for me - I don't get how that relates to any sort of discussion on the influence of Christianity on the US in re: laws/founding/framers. (also this is a massive hijack by this point)
Even with specific issues (as you posited w/ abortion), I can't see how that influences discussion.
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Originally posted by Rudey
People can beat this all they want but what is the discussion about at this point? Does Connie disagree that the US did not have Christianity as its official religion?
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She claimed the US as a "Christian nation" and that our nation was framed after implicitly Christian principles. The implication came that the nation (and its laws, NOT state law) was based on "Biblical laws", an assertion that I can't imagine you would support.
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Originally posted by Rudey
Do you and others disagree the character and policies of this country are influenced by Christianity? (*subjective term removed by me*)
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Does this influence make the US a "Christian nation"?
Does this mean constitutional law should be based on Christian influence? How about common law?
Is this influence within the bounds of the ideals the nation was founded upon?
I'm not denying the influence, but in nothing I've ever read has led me to believe these questions can be answered in the positive (as has been implied by others, hence my only interest in the thread). I can begin to piece together an argument for the third, based upon a majority rule that does not preclude any particular minority, but relatively menial arguments re: secular government make the leap too far, for my mind.
Obviously my degree isn't in history, so feel free to give examples and I'll start the Hegelian dialectic in motion.
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