any "nice" conservatives out there?

shinerbock · #1 09-20-2006, 06:09 PM

Haha, I'd never read what this thread was actually about. That being said, try being a conservative on a liberal campus (or message board...) and you'll probably be labled a hate filled racist war monger who slaughters animals.

Exquisite5 · #2 09-20-2006, 06:21 PM

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Haha, I'd never read what this thread was actually about. That being said, try being a conservative on a liberal campus (or message board...) and you'll probably be labled a hate filled racist war monger who slaughters animals.

...and you're sure to be if you act like one.

Rudey · #3 09-20-2006, 07:44 PM

How is the government "creating" a right an action that small government would undertake? I've never quite understood this. And conservatives don't believe the government should simply finance highways and not have any other roles in the lives of its citizens. Those are those people that don't get elected but are proud of some lady who writes idiot books.

-Rudey

KSig RC · #4 09-21-2006, 10:44 AM

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How is the government "creating" a right an action that small government would undertake? I've never quite understood this.

This is my entire point - shouldn't this be entirely a state issue?

And, by proxy, isn't that aspect of state's rights a hallmark of traditional conservatism?

shinerbock · #5 09-20-2006, 10:28 PM

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...and you're sure to be if you act like one.

Yeah, I guess not liking rap music and being against affirmative action is doing just that...

_Opi_ · #6 09-21-2006, 12:59 AM

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try being a conservative on a liberal campus (or message board...) and you'll probably be labled a hate filled racist war monger who slaughters animals.

Hey, there are worst things to be called than that.

Coramoor · #7 09-21-2006, 02:14 PM

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Hey, there are worst things to be called than that.

...yeah. A Democrat.

RACooper · #8 09-21-2006, 02:35 PM

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...yeah. A Democrat.

heh... the worst insult you can throw at a conservative up here is "Republican"; because both the Bush/Neo-Con association, but mostly because you're accusing the person of republicanism... only the extreme far-right fringe hold to those values

shinerbock · #9 09-21-2006, 02:46 PM

Well thankfully I don't live up there.

MysticCat · #10 09-21-2006, 04:14 PM

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heh... the worst insult you can throw at a conservative up here is "Republican"; because both the Bush/Neo-Con association, but mostly because you're accusing the person of republicanism... only the extreme far-right fringe hold to those values

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Well thankfully I don't live up there.

I imagine part of the "insult" is that Canada isn't a republic. I would have thought, though, that Republicanism (i.e., wanting to establish a federal republic in place of a realm governed by the Queen-in-Parliament) in Canada would be viewed as quite liberal (in the sense of wanting to completely overhaul the system of government) rather than far-right fringe.

RACooper · #11 09-22-2006, 01:02 AM

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I imagine part of the "insult" is that Canada isn't a republic. I would have thought, though, that Republicanism (i.e., wanting to establish a federal republic in place of a realm governed by the Queen-in-Parliament) in Canada would be viewed as quite liberal (in the sense of wanting to completely overhaul the system of government) rather than far-right fringe.

You'd think

But it in practice these last two decades, it has been the far-left NDP and centralist Liberals that have been the flag bearers for the Monarchy - they are the one that have opposed "conservative" motions to remove the Queen from the Oath of Allegiance and Citizen's Ceremony (new citizenship ceremony).

Canada's far-right have always had an element of the United North America republic nutjobs (trust me, a Canadian political nutjob is waaaaay out there), a trend going back to even before 'Canada'... in the old days, if a Tory was labelled a "republican" his career was done... now though, who knows, the political right has fractured and reformed, adopting a myriad of disperate political flavours. Anyways I'm a Old Tory, which among other things means a staunch defense of the Monarchy, Canadian (British) traditions/insitutions, the privacy of religion, equal taxation, respect for heirarchy/authority, and a fond rememberance of the days of Empire...

_Opi_ · #12 09-21-2006, 04:25 PM

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...yeah. A Democrat.

Dude, that's not even an insult.

I'm a conservative at heart, but for the most part I vote NDP/Liberal/and soon enough democrat. Some of these conservative leaders are fucking crazy.

shinerbock · #13 09-21-2006, 04:33 PM

Thats nonsense. At my fraternity house in 2004, you could make fun of someones mom, gf, religious beliefs, anything...but don't dare accuse them of supporting John Kerry. D*mocrat is a very dirty word some places.

Coramoor · #14 09-22-2006, 11:02 AM

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Thats nonsense. At my fraternity house in 2004, you could make fun of someones mom, gf, religious beliefs, anything...but don't dare accuse them of supporting John Kerry. D*mocrat is a very dirty word some places.

Exactly.
I've seen more physical violence over political leanings than having sex with someone else's girlfriend.

KSigkid · #15 09-22-2006, 10:13 AM

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Dude, that's not even an insult.

I'm a conservative at heart, but for the most part I vote NDP/Liberal/and soon enough democrat. Some of these conservative leaders are fucking crazy.

...and so are some of these "liberal" leaders.