Is there a connection between Alpha Delta Pi and Phi Mu?

[honeychile]

Originally posted by PennyCarter
And I can't say enough great things about the Cannon Ball house. Some of our sisters usually work there giving tours. And the Philamathean and Adelphean rooms are set up exactly like the original rooms where our founders met (they even have the original furniture). I was preffed in the Cannon Ball house!!!

Oh, my gosh!! That must have been the most awesome of Pref Parties I've EVER heard of!!!

I'm just pea green !!!!

[AlphaSigOU]

Originally posted by dzrose93
I don't know if this still holds true, but Georgia used to have more counties than any other state. I suppose they ran out of names eventually and had to steal city names from the county ones (or vice versa).

The funniest county names to me are Coffee and Bacon. They sit side by side.

Texas still has Georgia beat... 254 counties to 159 for Georgia.

[HotDamnImAPhiMu]

Originally posted by PennyCarter
Is it true that Phi Mu's always use the lady bug if ADPi was on the campus first? Just curious because that is how it is at Mercer, but maybe that's not really why. And what do ADPi's use if Phi Mu was there first? I've never heard of anything except a lion for us (well except in the early days of Unicorns)

Phi Mu sometimes uses the ladybug because it relates to our efforts to be "Phi Mu ladies."

The ladybug is NOT our official mascot. The lion is.

ASA uses the ladybug
ADP uses the lion, too.

So Phi Mu usually just uses the symbol NOT used. i.e. at my campus, ASA was present, so we used the lion.

[GammaPhiBabe]

Is it true that Phi Mu's always use the lady bug if ADPi was on the campus first? Just curious because that is how it is at Mercer, but maybe that's not really why. And what do ADPi's use if Phi Mu was there first?

As far as I know, on our campus both ADPi and Phi Mu use the lion as their mascot.

[ASUADPi]

Yes both Phi Mu and ADPi use Lions as their mascot. Alphie and Sir Fidel. I've decided that since our founders were friends with each other that our mascots are "friends" also .

[ADPi Conniebama]

1911 . . . . The unicorn was adopted as a symbol replacing the dragon which had been on the original Coat-of-Arms.

that was when we still considered ourselves to be alpha delta phi.

1915 At the Convention, the coat of arms is modified. The unicorn is changed to a lion rampart with a background of violets and the English version of the open motto – “We live for each other.”

And, all of this can be found at http://www.alphadeltapi.org/

I also found this interesting

1883 “Who could fail to recall with pride the excitement of the rush we had by the two sororities before we could decide which we would join…the first idea was to impress the young thing with the great honor shown her…Every afternoon large delegations went to the home of the little girl to talk matters over and to urge an immediate decision. Once I recall the Adelpheans waited for me outside the school and escorted me to my home, hoping to stage as grand appeal to my mother, who was supposed to influence a sterner parent, and when we arrived, the place was already overflowing with Philomatheans.” (Loyally, Volume I)

Gotta love those phi mu's (greek love to yall) even 150 years later.

[KDwxgrrl]

This thread is amazing.

I know Longwood College (formerly State Female Normal School) is home to the most sorority foundings - 4. The first of which was my sorority, Kappa Delta (1897), followed by Zeta Tau Alpha (1898), Tri-Sigma (1898), and Alpha Sigma Alpha (1901). There has GOT to be a story behind that one... does anybody know it?

[ms_gwyn]

Originally posted by KDwxgrrl
This thread is amazing.

I know Longwood College (formerly State Female Normal School) is home to the most sorority foundings - 4. The first of which was my sorority, Kappa Delta (1897), followed by Zeta Tau Alpha (1898), Tri-Sigma (1898), and Alpha Sigma Alpha (1901). There has GOT to be a story behind that one... does anybody know it?

I'm kinda of a greek historic freak so I do know that KD, Tri Sigma and KD were all formed around the same time, KD was announced first, then Tri Sigma then later that year Zeta, was around as the "???" but didn't have a "formal" name until later that year (1898).

I also believe there is a story behind it, as least with the first 3, but it is unlikely we will hear it because of "PC"ness, even in those days.

[honeychile]

Originally posted by ADPi Conniebama
1911 . . . . The unicorn was adopted as a symbol replacing the dragon which had been on the original Coat-of-Arms.

that was when we still considered ourselves to be alpha delta phi.

<snip>

Gotta love those phi mu's (greek love to yall) even 150 years later.

Aren't you glad we don't have that dragon anymore? Can you imagine all the "Puff the Magic Dragon" jokes?!

[ADPi Conniebama]

I for one do think it is interesting if the various sororities that have similar backgrounds form a sort of bond that only they can understand.

I do feel differently about phi mu's then I do about other sororities, because they were the second secret society formed for women and because they started at same college we did. I have always found it easier to understand them. Some of my best friends from college were phi mu and the girl that set up me and my husband was a phi mu. I don't know if, as a whole, phi mu feels the same about adpi but the macon magnolias thing is great.

[33girl]

Originally posted by ms_gwyn
I'm kinda of a greek historic freak so I do know that KD, Tri Sigma and KD were all formed around the same time, KD was announced first, then Tri Sigma then later that year Zeta, was around as the "???" but didn't have a "formal" name until later that year (1898).

I also believe there is a story behind it, as least with the first 3, but it is unlikely we will hear it because of "PC"ness, even in those days.

ASA was formed simply because the 5 founders were all friends and wanted to be in a sorority together (they all had received bids to the existing 3 sororities). It had nothing to do with race or religion which I'm guessing is the "PC" ness you are referring to.

From what I gather, Farmville's population at the time was fairly homogenous, so I don't think it's a "they wouldn't let me in because I was Jewish" angle. If you want to find that info, all you need to do is look in the old (1920's - 1930's) editions of Baird's.

[ms_gwyn]

Originally posted by 33girl
From what I gather, Farmville's population at the time was fairly homogenous, so I don't think it's a "they wouldn't let me in because I was Jewish" angle. If you want to find that info, all you need to do is look in the old (1920's - 1930's) editions of Baird's.

Oh nothing of the sort, in regards to race or religion....what I meant by "PC"ness of the situation is that they were all (mostly likely) "fighting" for the same girls and that they all knew each other, so I am assuming some not so nice things occurred, not attempting to be evil or spreading gossip, just general cattiness that we women can display at times.

I have read a few histories and one was brutally honest about some infighting going in w/in the organization that lead to an almost merger between two (now very popular NPCs) young orgs and then later a chapter having its charter revoked b/c of the drama they caused.

That is really all that I'm referring to.

[33girl]

Originally posted by ms_gwyn
Oh nothing of the sort, in regards to race or religion....what I meant by "PC"ness of the situation is that they were all (mostly likely) "fighting" for the same girls and that they all knew each other, so I am assuming some not so nice things occurred, not attempting to be evil or spreading gossip, just general cattiness that we women can display at times.

I have read a few histories and one was brutally honest about some infighting going in w/in the organization that lead to an almost merger between two (now very popular NPCs) young orgs and then later a chapter having its charter revoked b/c of the drama they caused.

That is really all that I'm referring to.

OK, that makes more sense. I know this sounds tres shallow but I think that would be a more interesting story in an E Channel way than women not being allowed to join due to religion.

[tekmousechica]

The connection between Alpha Pi, Gamma Phi Beta, and Alpha Gamma Delta is that they were all founded at Syracuse University in Syracuse New York. Alpha Pi in 1872, Gamma Phi Beta in 1874, and Alpha Gamma Delta in 1904. One fun fact is that our badges have similar designs (all are monograms of our letters).

[sigmaK619]

Anyone besides us SKs notice the similarity between Sigma K and Sigma Sigma Sigma. Our national magazine is the Sigma Kappa Triangle, SSS is the Triangle of Sigma Sigma Sigma. We both have the violet and our pins are very, very similar. Any Tri-Sigs have any thoughts?