Is there a connection between Alpha Delta Pi and Phi Mu?

CutiePie2000 · #1 01-30-2003, 04:37 PM

Hi there,
I was wondering a few things about Alpha Delta Pi (started out as "The Adelphean Society") and Phi Mu (started out as "The Philomathean Society"), partly because I noticed several commonalities:

1) Both were founded at Wesleyan College in Macon, Georgia and within a very short time period of each other
(ADPi in 1851, Phi Mu in 1852)

2) Both have the lion as their mascot.

So, my question is....did any members of The Adelphean Society "defect" and start up The Philomathean Society?
I was just wondering.....

ADPi's and Phi Mu's, if you have any interesting historical information from your New Member Education materials, I would be interested to hear it. Thanks!

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PS This is a bit of a stretch, but I can sort of see "common themes" in the their badges, too...(please disregard the very first one...it was stuck in the jpg):

phimualumnc · #2 01-30-2003, 05:16 PM

Phi Mu and Alpha Delta Pi have some wonderful connections to each other.

We were both founded at Wesleyan College - ADPi in 1851 - as The Adelphean Society and Phi Mu in 1852 as The Philomathean Society. One of Phi Mu's founders - Mary Dupont Lines was roommates with the President of The Adelphean Society.

Both sororities are well remembered at the college still. There are iron gates at the college with both represented. We share space at The Cannonball House in Macon, Georgia. They have re-created the original meeting rooms of each society, displaying wonderful memorabilia of each group. You can see the rooms by going to the Cannonball website: http://www.cannonballhouse.org and then look under Tour Info

Shannon

ZTAMich · #3 01-30-2003, 05:21 PM

What a beautiful home! I love it!
I wonder if other orgs have similar connections since so many schools have been the home to more than one sorority founding?

sweetie adpi · #4 01-30-2003, 05:25 PM

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Originally posted by CutiePie2000

1) Both were founded at Wesleyan College in Macon, Georgia and within a very short time period of each other
(ADPi in 1851, Phi Mu in 1852)

2) Both have the lion as their mascot.

So, my question is....did any members of The Adelphean Society "defect" and start up The Philomathean Society?
I was just wondering.....

ADPi's and Phi Mu's, if you have any interesting historical information from your New Member Education materials, I would be interested to hear it. Thanks!

well let's see... i don't know alot about the philomathean society, but, this is what i do know

it was started by a roommate of one of our founders of adpi, i'm not sure of what kind of relationship they had, but she was never involved with adpi.

while our first badge were satin ribbands of azure blue and white with adelphean society and "we live for each other" written on them, when coming up with a design for our more familiar badge, the philomathean founders were also trying to come up with a badge at the same time, and the founders of each org ended up consulting the same professor. the prof suggested, "make one a diamond and one a square" which is how each was influenced with our diamonds and phi mu's quatrefoils...

as for the lions i know that alphie (our lion mascot) wasn't adopted until later on so that wasn't something they had in common from the very beginning, although i guess both orgs had lions in their coat of arms from the beginning, but i don't think that is uncommon since lions are fairly common in a heraldic coat of arms and expressed an aspect of each org...

MTSUGURL · #5 01-30-2003, 07:00 PM

How interesting!

CutiePie2000 · #6 01-30-2003, 07:17 PM

Thanks ladies for your posts - I found them to be quite interesting!

Tom Earp · #7 01-30-2003, 11:37 PM

Isnt it amazing how some 150 plus years ago that this could happen back then.

Look at what we have in some cases come to today.

This is a very inlightening post, thank you for putting the question forward and the answers given.
This just once again proves the type of people on GC who an relate and work together for the common good!

HotDamnImAPhiMu · #8 01-31-2003, 12:28 AM

The two societies were founded for different purposes. There wasn't any hard feelings between the two roommates ~ it's like one roommate founding a music society and the other founding a literary society.

breathesgelatin · #9 01-31-2003, 12:41 AM

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Originally posted by ZTAMich
What a beautiful home! I love it!
I wonder if other orgs have similar connections since so many schools have been the home to more than one sorority founding?

If I can dig up a quote by a Pi Phi at Monmouth College from around the time that Kappa was founded, I will... I've seen one before... I know that Pi Phis were present when the founding Kappa sisters were presented to the college, and the two organizations were close from the start...

sherbertlemons · #10 01-31-2003, 01:37 AM

Please do that, BreathesGelatin! I was actually getting curious about Pi Phi and Kappa reading this thread, since I know they were founded fairly close together.

It's exciting- with the founding of my chapter, UCF now has the Monmouth Duo!

White_Chocolate · #11 02-01-2003, 12:36 PM

A lot of sororities started up because of different reasons. I know that my sorority was founded because one founder went through rush and didn't get into anything because she wasn't of the same religious persuasion as the rest of the girls. So, she decided to start her own.
AND THIS IS WHY MY SORORITY ROCKS!!!
We are the only NPC sorority that is not based on scripture ritual. The foundation of our sorority and it's members screams that DIVERSITY IS WELCOMED.

PM_Mama00 · #12 02-01-2003, 12:53 PM

Last time I checked, many NPC sororities (at least up here) welcome diversity.

Can we please stick to the topic of Phi Mu/ADPi, and other organizations being somewhat "related"?

teke4life · #13 02-01-2003, 02:47 PM

i heard that there was a connection between ZBT and TKE, from a ZBT alumnus that i worked for. i never bothered to research the connection though. any ZBT's out there to comment?

KillarneyRose · #14 02-01-2003, 02:54 PM

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Originally posted by White_Chocolate
A lot of sororities started up because of different reasons. I know that my sorority was founded because one founder went through rush and didn't get into anything because she wasn't of the same religious persuasion as the rest of the girls. So, she decided to start her own.
AND THIS IS WHY MY SORORITY ROCKS!!!
We are the only NPC sorority that is not based on scripture ritual. The foundation of our sorority and it's members screams that DIVERSITY IS WELCOMED.

WhiteChocolate, I think that is very interesting! Although all NPC organizations now welcome diversity among their sisterhoods, most were not founded with that purpose specifically in mind.

That is something for you and your sisters to be very proud of!

Sistermadly · #15 02-01-2003, 10:34 PM

I'm interested in knowing what connection, if any, exists between the sororities that make up the "Syracuse Triad" - Alpha Phi, Alpha Gamma Delta and Gamma Phi Beta.