Tragedy at University of Idaho

[cheerfulgreek]

Okay, so…. and for the record, I had no idea what an “incel” was before reading Phrozen’s posts, so I looked it up.

Apparently, it’s short for involuntary celibate, like an online subculture of guys who think the world owes them sex and affection just because they exist. So like, they sit around blaming women for not being attracted to them, and when that bitterness festers, it turns into this like toxic, entitled mindset where rejection feels like oppression.

So let’s just call it what it is.… it’s a bunch of guys with the charisma of printer paper and the social skills of a wet Q-tip, pretty much.

[amIblue?]

Originally Posted by cheerfulgreek

So let’s just call it what it is.… it’s a bunch of guys with the charisma of printer paper and the social skills of a wet Q-tip, pretty much.

lol!! Except printer paper and wet q-tips actually serve a purpose from time to time.

[Phrozen Sands]

Originally Posted by cheerfulgreek

Okay, so…. and for the record, I had no idea what an “incel” was before reading Phrozen’s posts, so I looked it up.

Apparently, it’s short for involuntary celibate, like an online subculture of guys who think the world owes them sex and affection just because they exist. So like, they sit around blaming women for not being attracted to them, and when that bitterness festers, it turns into this like toxic, entitled mindset where rejection feels like oppression.

So let’s just call it what it is.… it’s a bunch of guys with the charisma of printer paper and the social skills of a wet Q-tip, pretty much.

LMAO! Why does the Qtip gotta be moist? Lol!

You never heard of incels, CG? You know what the manosphere is, right?

[honeychile]

Originally Posted by Phrozen Sands

LMAO! Why does the Qtip gotta be moist? Lol!

You never heard of incels, CG? You know what the manosphere is, right?

I'll be honest - I never heard of Incels until I read an article on the killings and googled it.

I have the feeling that he won't be celibate for long, voluntary or not.

[Phrozen Sands]

Originally Posted by honeychile

I'll be honest - I never heard of Incels until I read an article on the killings and googled it.

I have the feeling that he won't be celibate for long, voluntary or not.

LOL!!!

honeychile, too? Two of my favorite GCers (honeychile and CG), y’all need to get up with the times Lol..

[cheerfulgreek]

Originally Posted by amIblue?

lol!! Except printer paper and wet q-tips actually serve a purpose from time to time.

lol
True! Very true.

Originally Posted by Phrozen Sands

LMAO! Why does the Qtip gotta be moist? Lol!

You never heard of incels, CG? You know what the manosphere is, right?

Nope. Never heard of it. But if it’s in the same zip code as that “incel” nonsense thingie, then yeah, it’s the same thing. Nonsense. My brain has a spam filter.

Originally Posted by honeychile

I'll be honest - I never heard of Incels until I read an article on the killings and googled it.

I have the feeling that he won't be celibate for long, voluntary or not.

This! I watched a documentary about the murders and they mentioned “incel” but I thought it was some kind of mental illness? Not like, a club or group of angry guys who think women owe them something?

Originally Posted by Phrozen Sands

LOL!!!

honeychile, too? Two of my favorite GCers (honeychile and CG), y’all need to get up with the times Lol..

I mean… maybe? Based on how the “times” are going, I’m okay being a little behind. Feels safer back here with common sense. I’m honestly good right here in my bubble of sanity.

[cheerfulgreek]

https://youtu.be/s03dVwhPbXA?si=ZqHReUSSMV_RKyR6

[navane]

I'm surprised at how many people haven't heard of incels. One of the most known ones is that guy who went on a stabbing and hooting spree in Santa Barbara, CA in 2014. He specifically targeted the Alpha Phi house because he thought they were the "hottest" and he wanted to get retribution on all of the girls he couldn't sleep with.

Link: https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-43892189


The anti-sorority theme has been seen a few times with incel cases. That is not surprising as, on the whole, sorority women are seen and beautiful and successful.....the things that agitate incels the most.

More info: https://www.thetrace.org/2019/05/inc...ista-shooting/

[cheerfulgreek]

So, I’m up watching the news. Ya know, I should have just turned the TV off and went to bed. Now I’m very angry at what I just heard. Just so we’re all clear, Trump, a convicted felon, actually said he hopes the judge makes Bryan Kohberger explain why he did it. Let that sink in. A man who’s been found liable for sexual abuse, has 34 felony convictions, and partied with Epstein is suddenly the spokesperson for justice? Are you kidding me?!

Sir, you shouldn’t be asking anyone why they did anything. You shouldn’t even be allowed to use the word “why” in a courtroom unless it’s in the sentence of “Why is your dumb ass still free?” As a matter of fact, “Why!” are you POTUS when you weren’t even supposed to be on the damn ballot?!!

This is the same asshole who bragged about sexually assaulting women. Was banned from his own charity for fraud. Has dodged accountability his entire adult life. And spent decades surrounding himself with people who mysteriously end up convicted, indicted, or dead.

So no, you don’t get to play judge now. Not when your own moral compass is spinning like a ceiling fan on cocaine.

Trump lecturing anyone on morality is like a dumpster fire judging a house for having smoke damage. Oh, he wants answers from Kohberger? Cute. Then I want answers about Epstein’s client list, starting with the moron posing in every other picture. You are demanding justice from a murder suspect, but your own history with a known sex trafficker is still unanswered, you effing pedophile.

[Zach]

There still isn’t any proof Trump was involved with the underaged sex trafficking. That’s what all this investigating is all about.

[jolene]

Originally Posted by Zach

There still isn’t any proof Trump was involved with the underaged sex trafficking. That’s what all this investigating is all about.

And the E Jean Carrol stuff was made up (and it was a civil trial, not criminal). There is an episode of Law and Order SVU that she stole her story from. No lie. And if you want to get into the RICO Georgia stuff, please do some digging on DA Fani Willis. She is shameless. She also insisted on the year long trial of Young Thug. Thanks for wasting tax payers' money and a jury's time.

[TLLK]

Originally Posted by navane

I'm surprised at how many people haven't heard of incels. One of the most known ones is that guy who went on a stabbing and hooting spree in Santa Barbara, CA in 2014. He specifically targeted the Alpha Phi house because he thought they were the "hottest" and he wanted to get retribution on all of the girls he couldn't sleep with.

Link: https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-43892189


The anti-sorority theme has been seen a few times with incel cases. That is not surprising as, on the whole, sorority women are seen and beautiful and successful.....the things that agitate incels the most.

More info: https://www.thetrace.org/2019/05/inc...ista-shooting/

My sorority big sister had an Alpha Phi niece who was in the chapter during that time. Fortunately she was away that day.
Unfortunately there were two Tri Deltas who were murdered near the Alpha Phi house during that rampage.

[cheerfulgreek]

Originally Posted by Zach

There still isn’t any proof Trump was involved with the underaged sex trafficking. That’s what all this investigating is all about.

Zach…
“There’s no proof yet”? Do you hear yourself?

That’s like standing next to a rotting corpse and saying, “Well, we haven’t officially confirmed it’s dead yet.” No pulse. No breath. Covered in flies. But sure, let’s wait for the paperwork. C’mon…

My God, he was best friends with a known sex trafficker. Bragged about watching underage girls change. Said he’d date his own daughter. And was accused of rape by a 13-year-old girl before his legal team made it disappear.

But you want to play the technicality game? Seriously?

And you know what? devil doesn’t show up with horns. He shows up with power, lawyers, and a fanbase that worships him while pretending not to smell the sulfur.

Zach, if you still need a courtroom transcript to recognize a predator, then you don’t lack evidence, you lack discernment. And frankly? That’s just as dangerous. Because history doesn’t ask what you saw. It asks what you ignored.

This isn’t about what we can legally prosecute — it’s about what we can plainly see. He was a regular at Epstein’s parties. He flew on Epstein’s plane. He defended Epstein, even after his conviction. And he’s on video saying he “likes them young.” At some point, “lack of proof” stops sounding cautious and starts sounding complicit.

And evil doesn’t always show up with a conviction. Sometimes it shows up with money, connections, and just enough gullible people saying, “Let’s wait for the investigation.”

The only reason he hasn’t been indicted in that case is because the system protects power, not innocence. So while you’re sitting there waiting for “proof,” some of us already read the signs, saw the behavior, and know exactly what we’re looking at.

Honestly? You don’t need a verdict to recognize a predator. You just need a spine. Like…. literally.

[Zach]

Originally Posted by jolene

And the E Jean Carrol stuff was made up (and it was a civil trial, not criminal). There is an episode of Law and Order SVU that she stole her story from. No lie. And if you want to get into the RICO Georgia stuff, please do some digging on DA Fani Willis. She is shameless. She also insisted on the year long trial of Young Thug. Thanks for wasting tax payers' money and a jury's time.

What does all this have to do with Epstein?

Originally Posted by cheerfulgreek

Zach…
“There’s no proof yet”? Do you hear yourself?

That’s like standing next to a rotting corpse and saying, “Well, we haven’t officially confirmed it’s dead yet.” No pulse. No breath. Covered in flies. But sure, let’s wait for the paperwork. C’mon…

My God, he was best friends with a known sex trafficker. Bragged about watching underage girls change. Said he’d date his own daughter. And was accused of rape by a 13-year-old girl before his legal team made it disappear.

But you want to play the technicality game? Seriously?

And you know what? devil doesn’t show up with horns. He shows up with power, lawyers, and a fanbase that worships him while pretending not to smell the sulfur.

Zach, if you still need a courtroom transcript to recognize a predator, then you don’t lack evidence, you lack discernment. And frankly? That’s just as dangerous. Because history doesn’t ask what you saw. It asks what you ignored.

This isn’t about what we can legally prosecute — it’s about what we can plainly see. He was a regular at Epstein’s parties. He flew on Epstein’s plane. He defended Epstein, even after his conviction. And he’s on video saying he “likes them young.” At some point, “lack of proof” stops sounding cautious and starts sounding complicit.

And evil doesn’t always show up with a conviction. Sometimes it shows up with money, connections, and just enough gullible people saying, “Let’s wait for the investigation.”

The only reason he hasn’t been indicted in that case is because the system protects power, not innocence. So while you’re sitting there waiting for “proof,” some of us already read the signs, saw the behavior, and know exactly what we’re looking at.

Honestly? You don’t need a verdict to recognize a predator. You just need a spine. Like…. literally.

A lot of people are in prison now tho because of lack of evidence. You can’t just say “I saw him in pictures with Epstein. Guilty.”

[cheerfulgreek]

Originally Posted by Zach

What does all this have to do with Epstein?

I’ll simplify it for you. When the man wagging his finger at a convicted murderer is the same one who’s been accused of rape, found liable for sexual abuse, and known for attending parties hosted by a convicted sex trafficker, you don’t need conspiracy. You need pattern recognition. We’re not unraveling a Cold War conspiracy here. It’s a straight line from “grab ‘em by the pussy” to “I want to date my daughter” to Epstein’s guest list. If that’s not worth side-eyeing, I don’t know what is. So…… basically, when someone covered in filth lectures someone else about being dirty, the irony becomes part of the case.

And no, this isn’t about legal thresholds. It’s about the obvious that people keep pretending not to see. Rot tends to hang around rot.

And this isn’t directed to you, Zach. But as for the sideline commentary, silence doesn’t make you classy. It just means you recognized the IQ gap and stayed in your lane. Smart.

Originally Posted by Zach

A lot of people are in prison now tho because of lack of evidence. You can’t just say “I saw him in pictures with Epstein. Guilty.”

No, Zach. You’re wrong. A lot of people are in prison because they didn’t have the money or political reach to bury evidence, pay off silence, or stall the system until the public moved on. That’s the difference.

You think a mugshot and orange jumpsuit are what define guilt? lol. Nope. They don’t. The real predators wear suits, shake hands on golf courses, and have legal teams whose only job is to muzzle the truth. And when that doesn’t work, they cut settlement checks big enough to shut down entire newsrooms.

And let’s not pretend the man who’s dodged rape allegations, defamation rulings, and multiple fraud charges is just the victim of “circumstantial suspicion.” He didn’t just appear in Epstein’s world, he was a recurring character in the credits. Private jet flights. Dinner parties. Public defenses. It wasn’t a photo op, it was a pattern.

So no, this isn’t about whether there’s a verdict. It’s about whether people can still recognize guilt when it hides behind money, lawyers, and delays.