Tragedy at University of Idaho

[Zach]

There still isn’t any proof Trump was involved with the underaged sex trafficking. That’s what all this investigating is all about.

[jolene]

Originally Posted by Zach

There still isn’t any proof Trump was involved with the underaged sex trafficking. That’s what all this investigating is all about.

And the E Jean Carrol stuff was made up (and it was a civil trial, not criminal). There is an episode of Law and Order SVU that she stole her story from. No lie. And if you want to get into the RICO Georgia stuff, please do some digging on DA Fani Willis. She is shameless. She also insisted on the year long trial of Young Thug. Thanks for wasting tax payers' money and a jury's time.

[amIblue?]

Originally Posted by jolene

And the E Jean Carrol stuff was made up (and it was a civil trial, not criminal). There is an episode of Law and Order SVU that she stole her story from. No lie. And if you want to get into the RICO Georgia stuff, please do some digging on DA Fani Willis. She is shameless. She also insisted on the year long trial of Young Thug. Thanks for wasting tax payers' money and a jury's time.

I don’t know what your point is regarding the Idaho murders, but you terrify me. Fox News is not your friend. Turn off the screens and read some books.

[jolene]

Originally Posted by amIblue?

I don’t know what your point is regarding the Idaho murders, but you terrify me. Fox News is not your friend. Turn off the screens and read some books.

Wow! I'm 'terrifying'. Yikes, I didn't know I had that much power.

And, yes, I read A LOT of many genres. And petty insults are't nice.

[cheerfulgreek]

Originally Posted by amIblue?

I don’t know what your point is regarding the Idaho murders, but you terrify me. Fox News is not your friend. Turn off the screens and read some books.

This!

Originally Posted by Phrozen Sands

Who’s it directed to? Jolene? LOL!!

So… let’s be honest, Phrozen. If her IQ had ever clawed its way out of the single digits, or if she had even basic neural courage, she’d have addressed me directly. But when your cognitive depth rivals a pothole and your frontal lobe’s still buffering, the only strategy left is detour. So she took the scenic route through Zach — Cute. Safe. Expected.

Originally Posted by jolene

Wow! I'm 'terrifying'. Yikes, I didn't know I had that much power.

lol
You don’t. Do you realize you’re defending a pussy grabbing, rape deflecting, felony stacking, Epstein-adjacent disgrace of a man, and expecting the rest of us to take you seriously?

Frankly? If ignorance had a fragrance, you’d be wearing it like perfume.

You’re not supporting a president. You’re worshipping a walking court date in a red tie, and trying to pass it off as “values.”

Let’s be real, the only thing Trump ever grabbed with confidence was women who said no, and dumb supporters like you who never did the math.

You’re defending a man who’s bragged about sexual assault, been found liable for it, convicted of 34 felonies, and spent more time around Epstein than his own wife, and somehow, you thought this was your moment to sound smart?

Sweetheart, your political opinions have the intellectual weight of canned air, and if IQ were gas mileage, yours wouldn’t get you out of the driveway.

You’re not informed, you’re just confidently loud in the presence of Google. And if you think clinging to Trump makes you bold, it doesn’t. It just makes you another uninformed bystander in a red hat, yelling over facts you’ve never even read.

The moron you worship grabs women by their vaginas and the only thing you’ve grabbed is a worldview five brain cells short of coherence. Sit down and be quiet.

[amIblue?]

Originally Posted by jolene

Wow! I'm 'terrifying'. Yikes, I didn't know I had that much power.

And, yes, I read A LOT of many genres. And petty insults are't nice.

I wasn’t trying to be nice, but the state of politics has absolutely nothing to do with these murders. You can do better than trying to tie politics to the senseless slaughter of these kids. They deserve to be living their best lives.

[cheerfulgreek]

Originally Posted by amIblue?

I wasn’t trying to be nice, but the state of politics has absolutely nothing to do with these murders. You can do better than trying to tie politics to the senseless slaughter of these kids. They deserve to be living their best lives.

I totally get the urge to respond, believe me. But honestly, she’s not worth it. She’s not here to have a real conversation.

The mods already asked for less back and forth, and I’d rather respect that than let her drag things down more than she already has. Some people honestly thrive on getting reactions, and silence tends to frustrate them more than anything we could say.

As far as I’m concerned, her posts here discredit themselves. No response needed.

Come join me and Phrozen instead, where the logic lives.

[cheerfulgreek]

Anyone else think BK dodged the bullet like I do?

[amIblue?]

Originally Posted by cheerfulgreek

I totally get the urge to respond, believe me. But honestly, she’s not worth it. She’s not here to have a real conversation.

The mods already asked for less back and forth, and I’d rather respect that than let her drag things down more than she already has. Some people honestly thrive on getting reactions, and silence tends to frustrate them more than anything we could say.

As far as I’m concerned, her posts here discredit themselves. No response needed.

Come join me and Phrozen instead, where the logic lives.

You’re right. This case really got to me; it really makes my heart hurt.

[cheerfulgreek]

Originally Posted by Zach

There still isn’t any proof Trump was involved with the underaged sex trafficking. That’s what all this investigating is all about.

Zach…
“There’s no proof yet”? Do you hear yourself?

That’s like standing next to a rotting corpse and saying, “Well, we haven’t officially confirmed it’s dead yet.” No pulse. No breath. Covered in flies. But sure, let’s wait for the paperwork. C’mon…

My God, he was best friends with a known sex trafficker. Bragged about watching underage girls change. Said he’d date his own daughter. And was accused of rape by a 13-year-old girl before his legal team made it disappear.

But you want to play the technicality game? Seriously?

And you know what? devil doesn’t show up with horns. He shows up with power, lawyers, and a fanbase that worships him while pretending not to smell the sulfur.

Zach, if you still need a courtroom transcript to recognize a predator, then you don’t lack evidence, you lack discernment. And frankly? That’s just as dangerous. Because history doesn’t ask what you saw. It asks what you ignored.

This isn’t about what we can legally prosecute — it’s about what we can plainly see. He was a regular at Epstein’s parties. He flew on Epstein’s plane. He defended Epstein, even after his conviction. And he’s on video saying he “likes them young.” At some point, “lack of proof” stops sounding cautious and starts sounding complicit.

And evil doesn’t always show up with a conviction. Sometimes it shows up with money, connections, and just enough gullible people saying, “Let’s wait for the investigation.”

The only reason he hasn’t been indicted in that case is because the system protects power, not innocence. So while you’re sitting there waiting for “proof,” some of us already read the signs, saw the behavior, and know exactly what we’re looking at.

Honestly? You don’t need a verdict to recognize a predator. You just need a spine. Like…. literally.

[Zach]

Originally Posted by jolene

And the E Jean Carrol stuff was made up (and it was a civil trial, not criminal). There is an episode of Law and Order SVU that she stole her story from. No lie. And if you want to get into the RICO Georgia stuff, please do some digging on DA Fani Willis. She is shameless. She also insisted on the year long trial of Young Thug. Thanks for wasting tax payers' money and a jury's time.

What does all this have to do with Epstein?

Originally Posted by cheerfulgreek

Zach…
“There’s no proof yet”? Do you hear yourself?

That’s like standing next to a rotting corpse and saying, “Well, we haven’t officially confirmed it’s dead yet.” No pulse. No breath. Covered in flies. But sure, let’s wait for the paperwork. C’mon…

My God, he was best friends with a known sex trafficker. Bragged about watching underage girls change. Said he’d date his own daughter. And was accused of rape by a 13-year-old girl before his legal team made it disappear.

But you want to play the technicality game? Seriously?

And you know what? devil doesn’t show up with horns. He shows up with power, lawyers, and a fanbase that worships him while pretending not to smell the sulfur.

Zach, if you still need a courtroom transcript to recognize a predator, then you don’t lack evidence, you lack discernment. And frankly? That’s just as dangerous. Because history doesn’t ask what you saw. It asks what you ignored.

This isn’t about what we can legally prosecute — it’s about what we can plainly see. He was a regular at Epstein’s parties. He flew on Epstein’s plane. He defended Epstein, even after his conviction. And he’s on video saying he “likes them young.” At some point, “lack of proof” stops sounding cautious and starts sounding complicit.

And evil doesn’t always show up with a conviction. Sometimes it shows up with money, connections, and just enough gullible people saying, “Let’s wait for the investigation.”

The only reason he hasn’t been indicted in that case is because the system protects power, not innocence. So while you’re sitting there waiting for “proof,” some of us already read the signs, saw the behavior, and know exactly what we’re looking at.

Honestly? You don’t need a verdict to recognize a predator. You just need a spine. Like…. literally.

A lot of people are in prison now tho because of lack of evidence. You can’t just say “I saw him in pictures with Epstein. Guilty.”

[cheerfulgreek]

Originally Posted by Zach

What does all this have to do with Epstein?

I’ll simplify it for you. When the man wagging his finger at a convicted murderer is the same one who’s been accused of rape, found liable for sexual abuse, and known for attending parties hosted by a convicted sex trafficker, you don’t need conspiracy. You need pattern recognition. We’re not unraveling a Cold War conspiracy here. It’s a straight line from “grab ‘em by the pussy” to “I want to date my daughter” to Epstein’s guest list. If that’s not worth side-eyeing, I don’t know what is. So…… basically, when someone covered in filth lectures someone else about being dirty, the irony becomes part of the case.

And no, this isn’t about legal thresholds. It’s about the obvious that people keep pretending not to see. Rot tends to hang around rot.

And this isn’t directed to you, Zach. But as for the sideline commentary, silence doesn’t make you classy. It just means you recognized the IQ gap and stayed in your lane. Smart.

Originally Posted by Zach

A lot of people are in prison now tho because of lack of evidence. You can’t just say “I saw him in pictures with Epstein. Guilty.”

No, Zach. You’re wrong. A lot of people are in prison because they didn’t have the money or political reach to bury evidence, pay off silence, or stall the system until the public moved on. That’s the difference.

You think a mugshot and orange jumpsuit are what define guilt? lol. Nope. They don’t. The real predators wear suits, shake hands on golf courses, and have legal teams whose only job is to muzzle the truth. And when that doesn’t work, they cut settlement checks big enough to shut down entire newsrooms.

And let’s not pretend the man who’s dodged rape allegations, defamation rulings, and multiple fraud charges is just the victim of “circumstantial suspicion.” He didn’t just appear in Epstein’s world, he was a recurring character in the credits. Private jet flights. Dinner parties. Public defenses. It wasn’t a photo op, it was a pattern.

So no, this isn’t about whether there’s a verdict. It’s about whether people can still recognize guilt when it hides behind money, lawyers, and delays.

[Phrozen Sands]

Originally Posted by cheerfulgreek

I’ll simplify it for you. When the man wagging his finger at a convicted murderer is the same one who’s been accused of rape, found liable for sexual abuse, and known for attending parties hosted by a convicted sex trafficker, you don’t need conspiracy. You need pattern recognition. We’re not unraveling a Cold War conspiracy here. It’s a straight line from “grab ‘em by the pussy” to “I want to date my daughter” to Epstein’s guest list. If that’s not worth side-eyeing, I don’t know what is. So…… basically, when someone covered in filth lectures someone else about being dirty, the irony becomes part of the case.

And no, this isn’t about legal thresholds. It’s about the obvious that people keep pretending not to see. Rot tends to hang around rot.

LMAO!

Originally Posted by cheerfulgreek

And this isn’t directed to you, Zach. But as for the sideline commentary, silence doesn’t make you classy. It just means you recognized the IQ gap and stayed in your lane. Smart.

Who’s it directed to? Jolene? LOL!!

Originally Posted by cheerfulgreek

No, Zach. You’re wrong. A lot of people are in prison because they didn’t have the money or political reach to bury evidence, pay off silence, or stall the system until the public moved on. That’s the difference.

You think a mugshot and orange jumpsuit are what define guilt? lol. Nope. They don’t. The real predators wear suits, shake hands on golf courses, and have legal teams whose only job is to muzzle the truth. And when that doesn’t work, they cut settlement checks big enough to shut down entire newsrooms.

And let’s not pretend the man who’s dodged rape allegations, defamation rulings, and multiple fraud charges is just the victim of “circumstantial suspicion.” He didn’t just appear in Epstein’s world, he was a recurring character in the credits. Private jet flights. Dinner parties. Public defenses. It wasn’t a photo op, it was a pattern.

So no, this isn’t about whether there’s a verdict. It’s about whether people can still recognize guilt when it hides behind money, lawyers, and delays.

FACTS! Preach! All facts.

[Zach]

Originally Posted by Phrozen Sands

Who’s it directed to? Jolene? LOL!!

Haha yeah, I wasn’t sure why she posted her comments to me instead of cheerfulgreek. It was kind of irrelevant.

[Zach]

Originally Posted by cheerfulgreek

No, Zach. You’re wrong. A lot of people are in prison because they didn’t have the money or political reach to bury evidence, pay off silence, or stall the system until the public moved on. That’s the difference.

You think a mugshot and orange jumpsuit are what define guilt? lol. Nope. They don’t. The real predators wear suits, shake hands on golf courses, and have legal teams whose only job is to muzzle the truth. And when that doesn’t work, they cut settlement checks big enough to shut down entire newsrooms.

And let’s not pretend the man who’s dodged rape allegations, defamation rulings, and multiple fraud charges is just the victim of “circumstantial suspicion.” He didn’t just appear in Epstein’s world, he was a recurring character in the credits. Private jet flights. Dinner parties. Public defenses. It wasn’t a photo op, it was a pattern.

So no, this isn’t about whether there’s a verdict. It’s about whether people can still recognize guilt when it hides behind money, lawyers, and delays.

I’m not disagreeing with you. In fact, you’re right. I’m just saying everybody deserves a fair shot in court, regardless of who it is (whether you like the person or not). Does everybody get that fair shot? No. But me personally, I don’t take sides when it comes to having rights in this country. Everybody deserves the same rights and fair treatment. It’s sad that some people get overlooked. Yeah, Trump has done some dirt, but I wouldn’t make an automatic connection to somebody else’s dirt just because he was hanging around them.

For example. I’m sure you have a circle of close friends you hang with on a regular. If one of them did something foul or corrupt, do you think because you hang around them that you’re foul or corrupt too? Do you think that’d be a fair assessment of you, knowing you’re not like that person?