What do you feel like saying, right now?

[Zach]

Originally Posted by Phrozen Sands

CG, when I saw you standing in the lobby, I knew it was you. Your hair and height were basically the cheat code for me recognizing you IRL Lol. TonyB06 definitely called it, you’re crushing the real life aesthetic game, no doubt..

What’d she look like? Give a description. supermodel? movie star? or just someone standing in good lighting with a decent hairstyle? Is she snobby in real life or just on here?

[Phrozen Sands]

Originally Posted by PrettyBoy

Details. Start from the beginning.

Dude, I just happened to be sitting next to her and we just started talking. She’s an AKA so we had Greek life in common. She seems mad cool. I’ll keep you posted.

Originally Posted by cheerfulgreek

lol
Just don’t go moving in with her so soon this time.

LOL I learned from that mistake. Never again.

Originally Posted by Zach

What’d she look like? Give a description. supermodel? movie star? or just someone standing in good lighting with a decent hairstyle? Is she snobby in real life or just on here?

LMAO! She wasn’t snobby in person. Maybe you just bring that side out of her?

Originally Posted by TonyB06

but seen a picture of CG. She's probably as fine in person as she looked on the pic.

Read this Zach. It’s facts LOL. That’s what CG looks like IRL. For real.

[cheerfulgreek]

Originally Posted by Phrozen Sands

LMAO! She wasn’t snobby in person. Maybe you just bring that side out of her?
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Oops, looks like my in-person, IRL settings were set to polite. Gotta fix that for next time.

But I guess I just save my best material for you, Zach. Consider yourself special.

[Phrozen Sands]

Wtf is wrong with people?
https://futurism.com/chatbot-abuse

[Zach]

Originally Posted by Phrozen Sands

Wtf is wrong with people?
https://futurism.com/chatbot-abuse

These dudes that are doing this are men that feel they can’t go through life without a female companion.

[agzg]

Originally Posted by Phrozen Sands

Wtf is wrong with people?
https://futurism.com/chatbot-abuse

The dangerous part about things like this is that it normalizes that type of behavior outside the "relationship." So sharing and cheering on and discussing using abusive language with these chatbots further normalizes abusive relationships in general and leads to an impact on how (mostly) men treat the (mostly) women in their lives. Same thing as with the redpill/incel cultural stuff spilling out with Andrew Tate and the impact that social media influencers like him are having with their "manosphere" stuff.

[PrettyBoy]

On another note, UPS just delivered my Duesenberg Simone. As soon as I’m done eating dinner, I’m going to open it.

[AGDee]

Originally Posted by agzg

The dangerous part about things like this is that it normalizes that type of behavior outside the "relationship." So sharing and cheering on and discussing using abusive language with these chatbots further normalizes abusive relationships in general and leads to an impact on how (mostly) men treat the (mostly) women in their lives. Same thing as with the redpill/incel cultural stuff spilling out with Andrew Tate and the impact that social media influencers like him are having with their "manosphere" stuff.

This. 100% this

[Phrozen Sands]

Originally Posted by agzg

https://www.adl.org/resources/articl...ve-things-know

He's a social media guy who's popular among young men who blame women for all their problems.

As soon as I opened up the link, I had a WTF moment at dude’s face. Y’all see his face? Dude is pissed LOL! He had to have had some bad experiences with women which is his fault because he chose them. Thanks for sharing this with me, agzg. I learned something new.

Originally Posted by PrettyBoy

Not necessarily. Some women will put up with it and stay in abusive relationships because in most cases, more likely than not, they grew up around abuse, so to them, it feels normal. When all they’ve known is control, manipulation, and conditional affection, real love can feel unfamiliar or even undeserved. With the men doing that to A.I., more likely than not, they also grew up abused or grew up seeing their parents in an abusive relationship or marriage.

Kids raised in abusive homes are more likely to end up and stay in toxic relationships because their brains are wired to equate chaos with connection. But the truth is, abuse isn’t love, it’s control. And no one deserves to live in fear disguised as devotion. A lot of times, this kind of behavior is generational.

True. I didn’t think about it being generational.

Originally Posted by PrettyBoy

On another note, UPS just delivered my Duesenberg Simone. As soon as I’m done eating dinner, I’m going to open it.

You got another car? What kind is this one?

Originally Posted by cheerfulgreek

Remember when we were all discussing viruses, and some of you said viruses are living and I said they’re not, and I gave a reason why they are not living organisms? Well, what you posted here is no different than a virus. What they both also have in common is they make people sick.

Omg, you should hear my techs at work. The terminology I hear them using when they talk about their dating lives, like “red pill”, “black pill” and some other terms that went way over my head… when I asked them what they were, when they explained it to me, I was like asking myself the same question you just asked yourself. “What is wrong with people?” Aye yai yai.

Yeah, I remember you comparing viruses to The Terminator.

I hear you on the terms. Somebody pulls a new word and definition out of their ass daily.

Originally Posted by cheerfulgreek

Oh, absolutely! I totally agree with you. Social media has totally reshaped how people interact, often in ways that make real-life connections awkward or even dysfunctional. And you’re so right about the consequences of the trash talking and disrespectful behavior. I mean, way back when, a reckless mouth might get you a quick smack, lesson learned. But now? People skip the slap and go straight to the trigger, which is just terrifying. It’s like we traded bruised egos for full-on catastrophe.

And don’t even get me started on relationships today. It’s like people have replaced genuine connection with performative nonsense for likes and validation. Loyalty is rare, emotional maturity is even rarer, and everything feels like a game no one actually wins. Honestly, I’m just SO glad I’m not in the dating pool anymore, because based on what I hear my techs talk about, it seems more like a toxic swamp at this point.

LMAO! It is though. You’re right. The woman I met while I was in Minneapolis at my fraternity event has been telling me about her dating experiences. I’ve been telling her about mine. Hers have all been bad like mine. She’s a school teacher and gets asked out by single dad’s all the time. She told me she’s been happy single because of how effed up dudes are today. We’ve been talking more than texting which we both agree on. She told me she doesn’t like texting as much because she can’t connect that way.

CG, I’m curious, when you were in the dating pool/swamp (LOL) back in the day, did you use dating apps or just meet random dude’s in person? Either way, I’ll bet you got a lot of attention.

[cheerfulgreek]

Originally Posted by Phrozen Sands

Yeah, I remember you comparing viruses to The Terminator.

Yep, and the AI chatbots operate the same way viruses do.

Originally Posted by Phrozen Sands

LMAO! It is though. You’re right. The woman I met while I was in Minneapolis at my fraternity event has been telling me about her dating experiences. I’ve been telling her about mine. Hers have all been bad like mine. She’s a school teacher and gets asked out by single dad’s all the time. She told me she’s been happy single because of how effed up dudes are today. We’ve been talking more than texting which we both agree on. She told me she doesn’t like texting as much because she can’t connect that way.

That’s awesome, Phrozen! I hope everything works out for you.

Originally Posted by Phrozen Sands

CG, I’m curious, when you were in the dating pool/swamp (LOL) back in the day, did you use dating apps or just meet random dude’s in person? Either way, I’ll bet you got a lot of attention.

So, I was in the dating pool, like later 2007ish. Remember that guy I posted about who I was getting serious with in Minnesota before I moved to Michigan to go to vet school? — back when meeting someone meant actual eye contact and not just hoping your best selfie did all the work? After him, I decided to try one of the dating online thingies, so I thought, “Okay, let’s see what this is all about.” I mean, I didn’t believe in casual dating so while I was getting serious with that guy, at the time, I told other guys I had a boyfriend.

So, I made a profile, uploaded a picture, and then I started getting a lot of messages shortly after. I didn’t respond to any of them, but for a brief moment, I thought, “Wow, this is flattering.” But then reality hit. I was thinking like were any of these guys actually interested in me? Or was I just the next contestant on “The Price is Right” — Desperate Edition? It felt less like a dating site and more like a clearance sale where everyone was just grabbing whatever was available before the deal expired.

So, I deleted my profile the same day I opened it, and decided I’d rather stress over vet school instead. I mean, my textbooks didn’t send cringey pickup lines. 🫤

[Phrozen Sands]

Originally Posted by cheerfulgreek

Yep, and the AI chatbots operate the same way viruses do.

How so?

Originally Posted by cheerfulgreek

That’s awesome, Phrozen! I hope everything works out for you.

It hasn’t even been a week yet LOL. But here’s to hope.

Originally Posted by cheerfulgreek

So, I was in the dating pool, like later 2007ish. Remember that guy I posted about who I was getting serious with in Minnesota before I moved to Michigan to go to vet school? — back when meeting someone meant actual eye contact and not just hoping your best selfie did all the work? After him, I decided to try one of the dating online thingies, so I thought, “Okay, let’s see what this is all about.” I mean, I didn’t believe in casual dating so while I was getting serious with that guy, at the time, I told other guys I had a boyfriend.

So, I made a profile, uploaded a picture, and then I started getting a lot of messages shortly after. I didn’t respond to any of them, but for a brief moment, I thought, “Wow, this is flattering.” But then reality hit. I was thinking like were any of these guys actually interested in me? Or was I just the next contestant on “The Price is Right” — Desperate Edition? It felt less like a dating site and more like a clearance sale where everyone was just grabbing whatever was available before the deal expired.

So, I deleted my profile the same day I opened it, and decided I’d rather stress over vet school instead. I mean, my textbooks didn’t send cringey pickup lines. 🫤

LMAO! What’d the messages say? Which dating site was it?

[Phrozen Sands]

Besides getting jelly filled, nasty ass, heart-shaped boxes of chocolate, what’s everybody got planned for Valentine’s Day?

[cheerfulgreek]

Originally Posted by Phrozen Sands

How so?

They’re like similar to AI spambots, but in a biological way. So kind of like the way I remember John explaining it to me when he was talking about what slows Greekchat down? So, like a virus, a spambot doesn’t have a mind of its own, it doesn’t run independently, and it doesn’t create anything new. It just sits there as an inactive line of code, until it finds a system to exploit. The moment it gets access to a server or an email chain, it takes over, copying itself and spreading, just like a virus infecting a host. But would anyone call an AI spambot alive? No, because it doesn’t think, it doesn’t adapt without external programming, and it can’t function without something to latch onto.

So, are viruses alive? Only in the same way that spambots are, like, by causing problems, replicating uncontrollably, and making everyone’s life a little more miserable. I mean, it’s not like they run the show, they just hijack the system. And just like how good cybersecurity can stop spambots, good vaccines and hygiene can keep viruses in check. But calling them alive (like some people do) is giving them way too much credit.

Originally Posted by Phrozen Sands

It hasn’t even been a week yet LOL. But here’s to hope.

Fingers crossed.

Originally Posted by Phrozen Sands

LMAO! What’d the messages say? Which dating site was it?

It was eharmony. I saw that I was getting messages but I couldn’t view them unless I paid for membership and I was NOT doing that. So, I don’t know what the messages said. I was just assuming they were cheesy pickup lines. Plus, at the time, I had already formed an online friendship with my now hubby, and that was free. I like free. I mean, you know the whole thing about how that went, lol. I eventually screenshot our back and forth messages from back then and put them in my scrapbook. I still read them and laugh, or when I want to call him out on something he says he didn’t say. Messages don’t lie.

Originally Posted by Phrozen Sands

Besides getting jelly filled, nasty ass, heart-shaped boxes of chocolate, what’s everybody got planned for Valentine’s Day?

My husband and I took the day off and are pretending we live in a kid-free world for a few hours. So far, we’ve actually had coffee without interruption, and I swear it feels like a luxury. We’re just trying to slow time down before school lets out and chaos resumes, lol.

Originally Posted by XAntoftheSkyX

I see so many clips of videos on social media of people acting crazy about dating, relationships, marriage and kids that I cannot believe those are their opinions. Men shaming women for having a higher body count than they want, and women shaming men for not having a high-paying job in the six to seven figures. Both have very unrealistic standards for a date's physical appearance in stereotypical ways.

I never went to bars, I never hit on women at clubs, every woman I dated were friends or people I met through social groups or shared activities. Plenty of them had issues, of which I'm also not innocent of. But they were much more down to earth than the people you see all over social media perpetuating these realities until they manifest in other's lives.

Yep. I mean, based on what I hear at work from others, social media makes dating seem like a game where everyone has unrealistic standards, but in reality, most people just want a real connection. Know what I mean?

Oh, and I love that you met people naturally, because emotional intelligence, self-awareness, and character matter just as much as physical attraction. Social media thrives on drama, not reality. I mean, honestly? Love isn’t a transaction, it’s built on connection, not checklists.

I’m not sure if I’ve asked you or not, but how did you and your wife meet?

[Phrozen Sands]

Originally Posted by cheerfulgreek

It was eharmony. I saw that I was getting messages but I couldn’t view them unless I paid for membership and I was NOT doing that. So, I don’t know what the messages said. I was just assuming they were cheesy pickup lines. Plus, at the time, I had already formed an online friendship with my now hubby, and that was free. I like free. I mean, you know the whole thing about how that went, lol. I eventually screenshot our back and forth messages from back then and put them in my scrapbook. I still read them and laugh, or when I want to call him out on something he says he didn’t say. Messages don’t lie.

Lmao @ free. Yeah, it was free as hell. You ended up with a good one, for free. The old saying goes “You get what you pay for.” Usually if something is free, the lasting quality is going to be that way too. That didn’t apply in y’all’s case Lol.

I heard eharmony was pretty chill back then. It’s sites like Plenty of Fish and Tender where dudes holler at chicks for one thing.

Originally Posted by cheerfulgreek

My husband and I took the day off and are pretending we live in a kid-free world for a few hours. So far, we’ve actually had coffee without interruption, and I swear it feels like a luxury. We’re just trying to slow time down before school lets out and chaos resumes, lol.

I’ll bet that coffee isn’t the only thing happening without interruption today, while school is still in session LOL!

[agzg]

Originally Posted by Phrozen Sands

As soon as I opened up the link, I had a WTF moment at dude’s face. Y’all see his face? Dude is pissed LOL! He had to have had some bad experiences with women which is his fault because he chose them. Thanks for sharing this with me, agzg. I learned something new.

I'd say you're welcome but I'm sorry that dude exists. He's a real fuggo, inside and out.

Originally Posted by Phrozen Sands

Besides getting jelly filled, nasty ass, heart-shaped boxes of chocolate, what’s everybody got planned for Valentine’s Day?

Big plans over here, I'm taking over bedtime for my husband so he can do meetings with some of his employees in another country. I'm considering throwing out our dinner plans (just a normal instant pot meal) for something fancier, I haven't decided. He got me some of my favorite candy plus an apron I've been eyeballing (I've taken up sourdough baking recently), and I got him a caliper for his 3-D printer. We're on year 19 together and it shows LOL.

Originally Posted by cheerfulgreek

My husband and I took the day off and are pretending we live in a kid-free world for a few hours. So far, we’ve actually had coffee without interruption, and I swear it feels like a luxury. We’re just trying to slow time down before school lets out and chaos resumes, lol.

The dream. We're gonna do this in March when both work and family obligations slow down. We're also taking the whole family to an indoor water park to blow off some steam.