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Old 01-23-2025, 07:52 PM
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Yes, there is the relentless dizziness of (his) holding and communicating opposing viewpoints, so any time he takes an action (his) past words will somehow match the action taken...

(His) supporters somehow justify (his) pardoning the most violent January 6 offenders, likely due to their hearing only one of the two opposite opinions (he's) spoken on the subject.
Cheerio, you’re absolutely right about the “dizziness” of Trump’s contradictions, I mean, it’s honestly baffling how his supporters manage to justify it all. But I think we’re talking about two different things.

What I’m trying to say isn’t just about the contradictions or how his supporters rationalize them. Those are symptoms of a deeper issue — the normalization of harmful behavior. The pomp and ceremony of an inauguration isn’t just a tradition, it’s a symbol of what we, as a society, value. And when we celebrate someone whose actions repeatedly contradict those values, we’re sending the message that those principles don’t matter. That’s what I’m really focused on.

It’s not about him being inconsistent, it’s about us as a country being consistent. What kind of standard are we setting if we allow someone to lie, undermine institutions, and cause harm, and then reward them with a celebration? The issue isn’t just what he’s doing, or what he’s done in the past, it’s that this country is collectively excusing it. That’s the bigger problem.

Now, here’s the thing about me, I tend to see certain issues in very black and white terms. I know not everyone looks at things that way, but for me, some principles just are or aren’t. Integrity, truth, accountability — these aren’t negotiable or situational, to me. Either they are there, or they are not. I mean, it’s not about being inflexible in a bad way, it’s about staying grounded in what really matters. And in situations like this, when the lines are blurred and excuses are made, I think it’s important to cut through the noise and focus on what’s objectively right or wrong. That’s just how I approach it.

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LMFAO! I hollered! You don’t know how to use a gun, CG? LOL!
Nope. But I’m going to learn how to use a shotgun this weekend. My husband is taking me to a shooting range so he can show me.

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I've been thinking this too- it might be time to get a gun. I've been to the shooting range a lot and know what I'd want to get, but I had never purchased one.
I think you should get one, Dee. The sooner, the better.

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That’s exactly what it is. I’ll bet that gun is bigger and weighs more than CG LOL!
lol
Honestly, Phrozen, it’s not about the size of the gun, it’s about the sparkle in the shooter. And trust me, I’ve got sparkle for days.
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Old 01-23-2025, 08:02 PM
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Old 01-23-2025, 08:26 PM
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lol
Honestly, Phrozen, it’s not about the size of the gun, it’s about the sparkle in the shooter. And trust me, I’ve got sparkle for days.
My mind is in the gutter, because after reading this post, I immediately went to this:
https://youtu.be/mwl8ZxliHIQ?si=hrUk4IX5LlB4kYM9

LOL!

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WIFLSRN: Ugh, I hate the “I’m full” text messages from my cats litter box. Or when it didn’t do a full rotation.
WTH kind of litter box is that, CG?
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Old 01-23-2025, 08:36 PM
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Ladies, get yourselves a Glock 43X. CG, forget about the shotgun.
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Old 01-23-2025, 08:45 PM
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Ladies, get yourselves a Glock 43X. CG, forget about the shotgun.
That's what I've practiced with at the shooting range.

TKEGuy does have a pistol and a couple rifles (because he hunts).
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Old 01-23-2025, 09:42 PM
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I have both a Glock and a short-barrel shotgun. I had a pistol grip conversion done on it, and I also had a side-saddle mounted to it to hold three extra shells. It looks extremely intimidating.

Between a Glock and a shotgun, the shotgun is more likely to neutralize an intruder faster. I use 00 buckshot and slugs in my shotgun. They both deliver overwhelming force. With 00 buckshot, each pull of the trigger releases multiple projectiles, increasing the chances of hitting vital areas, even if your aim is slightly off. With the slugs I use, the impact is so powerful, it can destroy entire sections of bone or muscle and leave entry wounds significantly larger than a handgun. I’d rather look to incapacitate an intruder quickly, rather than trying to aim in a stressful situation.

The Glock’s stopping power isn’t as immediate as a shotgun, especially if you’re using slugs. One shot with a slug, and game over. A new wall would be needed, too. Plus, a shotgun has a more psychological advantage over the Glock. An intruder hears that “racking” sound from a shotgun and they’re running. I’d rather protect my home with a shotgun over a Glock any day.
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Old 01-23-2025, 10:03 PM
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WIFLSRN: Ugh, I hate the “I’m full” text messages from my cats litter box. Or when it didn’t do a full rotation.
The thought of a litter box sending texts literally made me laugh out loud.
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Old 01-23-2025, 10:24 PM
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I have both a Glock and a short-barrel shotgun. I had a pistol grip conversion done on it, and I also had a side-saddle mounted to it to hold three extra shells. It looks extremely intimidating.

Between a Glock and a shotgun, the shotgun is more likely to neutralize an intruder faster. I use 00 buckshot and slugs in my shotgun. They both deliver overwhelming force. With 00 buckshot, each pull of the trigger releases multiple projectiles, increasing the chances of hitting vital areas, even if your aim is slightly off. With the slugs I use, the impact is so powerful, it can destroy entire sections of bone or muscle and leave entry wounds significantly larger than a handgun. I’d rather look to incapacitate an intruder quickly, rather than trying to aim in a stressful situation.

The Glock’s stopping power isn’t as immediate as a shotgun, especially if you’re using slugs. One shot with a slug, and game over. A new wall would be needed, too. Plus, a shotgun has a more psychological advantage over the Glock. An intruder hears that “racking” sound from a shotgun and they’re running. I’d rather protect my home with a shotgun over a Glock any day.
The "racking" sound saved my ex-father-in-law when someone broke into his house. He was in his bedroom and could hear them outside his room so he racked it and the guy ran out of the house.
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Old 01-23-2025, 10:45 PM
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Between a Glock and a shotgun, the shotgun is more likely to neutralize an intruder faster. I use 00 buckshot and slugs in my shotgun. They both deliver overwhelming force. With 00 buckshot, each pull of the trigger releases multiple projectiles, increasing the chances of hitting vital areas, even if your aim is slightly off. With the slugs I use, the impact is so powerful, it can destroy entire sections of bone or muscle and leave entry wounds significantly larger than a handgun. I’d rather look to incapacitate an intruder quickly, rather than trying to aim in a stressful situation.

The Glock’s stopping power isn’t as immediate as a shotgun, especially if you’re using slugs. One shot with a slug, and game over. A new wall would be needed, too. Plus, a shotgun has a more psychological advantage over the Glock. An intruder hears that “racking” sound from a shotgun and they’re running. I’d rather protect my home with a shotgun over a Glock any day.
It's funny but the same reasons you prefer the shotgun is why I would prefer a Glock or another 9mm equivalent pistol. I would be very concerned about overpenetration and other damage.

Ultimately you should use what you feel most comfortable with and what will make you successful in your goal of protecting your house/family
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Old 01-23-2025, 10:52 PM
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It's funny but the same reasons you prefer the shotgun is why I would prefer a Glock or another 9mm equivalent pistol. I would be very concerned about overpenetration and other damage.

Ultimately you should use what you feel most comfortable with and what will make you successful in your goal of protecting your house/family
I hear you and agree on the over-penetration thing. But see, I’m not trying to just stop the problem, I’m trying to send it straight to the next dimension. No chance of survival, no sequels, no post-credits scene. Just CH-CHKK, BOOM and goodnight.
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Old 01-23-2025, 11:06 PM
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The "racking" sound saved my ex-father-in-law when someone broke into his house. He was in his bedroom and could hear them outside his room so he racked it and the guy ran out of the house.
Missed this post. Yup, 100-percent.

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Old 01-24-2025, 12:18 AM
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I hear you and agree on the over-penetration thing. But see, I’m not trying to just stop the problem, I’m trying to send it straight to the next dimension. No chance of survival, no sequels, no post-credits scene. Just CH-CHKK, BOOM and goodnight.
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Missed this post. Yup, 100-percent.

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Old 01-24-2025, 12:21 AM
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I’m with Xant. PB wants overkill Lol. My Glock would do the trick just fine. Shotguns and rifles are too long. It’d be hard to move around the house with those.
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Old 01-24-2025, 07:26 AM
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I don't discount the method of thinking using a shotgun for home defense. If you use a shotgun regularly, are confident with the manual of arms, and can hit the intended target than that's great.

I personally ascribe to the school of thought of using a lower powered cartridge with a more precise aim to defend what I care about. I'll still make someone into their aerated cheese of choice, but with more precise holes where they should be.
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Old 01-24-2025, 11:49 AM
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I’m with Xant. PB wants overkill Lol. My Glock would do the trick just fine. Shotguns and rifles are too long. It’d be hard to move around the house with those.
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I don't discount the method of thinking using a shotgun for home defense. If you use a shotgun regularly, are confident with the manual of arms, and can hit the intended target than that's great.

I personally ascribe to the school of thought of using a lower powered cartridge with a more precise aim to defend what I care about. I'll still make someone into their aerated cheese of choice, but with more precise holes where they should be.
It’s not about “overkill” or whatnot, but I am very protective of my family. I wouldn’t want the intruder coming back. If they come back, sometimes, they could come back with their own self-defense, and that weapon could be yours, while he’s waiting for you or one of your family members to come home. I can’t have that. Plus, Minnesota has these weird intruder laws. We live next door to a judge and he’s told me all about them. That’s why I’m not giving the intruder a chance to run.

Aerated cheese, Xant? Nah, I’m going for full on melted fondue with no recovery time. That’s how I express my love for my family/home defense. 😂
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