What do you feel like saying, right now?

[cheerfulgreek]

Originally Posted by AGDee

They said during the broadcast she was in Hawaii. I wanted to see her and George Bush being pals.

Yes. I remember him always giving her candy, lol.

Originally Posted by AGDee

I think Obama is just being who he is, kind and warm to everybody. He knew the eyes of the world were on them at this time and did the right thing- took the high road, as Michelle would say.

I was fascinated by the interaction between Trump and Pence. Pence looked more stony faced than usual and it was SO awkward. But Trump pretty much had to be there. It was a funeral for beloved Georgian and he won Georgia this time around. He didn't look engaged at all.

It's so interesting to see that the Bushes, Obamas and Clintons all get along so well. Trump will never be in that place. Given their ages, it's likely that Biden or Trump will be the next presidential funeral.

Trump shouldn’t have even been invited. I don’t know why people have to be phony like that. Doing so is just saying everything that Donald Trump has said and done is okay. Who invites a convicted felon and a rapist to a presidential funeral? He took an oath and violated it by trying to overthrow an election. But he was still invited to a presidential funeral. That just doesn’t make any sense, to me. 🫤

Originally Posted by AGDee

I'm taking TKEGuy to the North American International Auto Show today when he gets here in about 40 minutes. He's a total car geek (could talk with PB for hours, I'm sure). I asked if he used to go when he lived in the Detroit area and he said only once or twice because his family wasn't interested so he never went.

He makes comments like that a lot. I'm not sure if he didn't do things he was interested in on his own because his ex didn't want him going and doing things on his own or if he didn't want to go on his own. But I cannot imagine a life where, if my family didn't want to do something, I couldn't go do it on my own. But maybe that's why I've been single so long? ATLGuy said some similar things before. We were watching some TV series together- we'd start them at the same time and chat during commercials and then discuss after. We'd decide how many shows to watch. He wanted to watch series because his wife will only watch movies, not TV shows. I have like 4 TVs in my house and if my spouse was watching something I didn't watch, I would go to a different room and watch what I wanted.

Am I the oddball here? Maybe this is why I've been single since my divorce in 2000? Am I too unwilling to give up things I like? Will this be a problem for me later?

Not at all, Dee. Honestly, I think you’re spot on. Knowing what you love and refusing to compromise on it isn’t a flaw, that’s self-awareness and self-respect. And the right person won’t see that as a problem, they’ll celebrate your passions right alongside you. I mean, or at least they should. Being single since 2000 just means you haven’t settled for less than you deserve, and I think that’s something to be proud of. You’re not the oddball at all. IMO, you’re the standard others should strive for.

Have you ever asked TKE Guy about his marriage with his ex, like, why they divorced or why he felt he wasn’t free to do the things he enjoyed?

I hope the two of you enjoyed the auto show, Dee. I remember the Charity Preview I’d go to each year. I had never been to an auto show before that. My date at the time, told me that people in the industry call it the “Auto Prom”. It sure did feel like it. It was SO glamorous and I swear, I felt like Cinderella each year I went.

It was such a magical event, and it was something I began to look forward to. Before that, the only “glamour” I associated with cars was when I finally got the floor mats clean in my own car without finding a random french fry, lol.

Originally Posted by aggieAXO

Exactly! I try to explain to people that this is not just a difference of opinion like I want cheese pizza and you want pepperoni. These people are literally making laws that hurt people I love and also risking women’s lives. I have no desire to interact with a Tdump supporter unless I absolutely have to. F them !

Yep, I couldn’t agree more. Trying to reason or have a conversation with Trump supporters is like arguing with a brick wall that also happens to be on fire. Their ignorance and cruelty go hand in hand, and frankly, I’d rather save my energy for people who actually have a heart and a brain. They are by far the dumbest people I have ever encountered in my entire life.

Originally Posted by aggieAXO

You should not have to give up anything you love for anyone, if you feel like you do then maybe this is not the right guy for you. I am too f ing old to care what a guy wants and I am sure as hell not giving up anything I like for them.

Yep. And my thoughts on that isn’t really directed to anyone, but giving up something you love for someone else is never the answer. Relationships should be about mutual respect and support, not sacrifice at the expense of your own happiness. And honestly, it goes both ways — it’s just as wrong to expect your partner to give up what they’re passionate about. Life’s too short to mold yourself into someone else’s ideal. I dunno, to me, love celebrates who you are, quirks and all, without conditions or compromises on the things that make you, you. Know what I mean?

Like, in my marriage, my husband and I both have our own passions, and neither of us would ever ask the other to give them up. He has his hobbies, and I have mine, and we respect and even encourage each other to pursue what makes us happy. I just think that’s how a partnership should work. I think it’s about lifting each other up, not forcing sacrifices. If someone expects you to give up something you love, that’s such a red flag, and it’s definitely not love.

[AGDee]

Originally Posted by cheerfulgreek

Yes. I remember him always giving her candy, lol.


Trump shouldn’t have even been invited. I don’t know why people have to be phony like that. Doing so is just saying everything that Donald Trump has said and done is okay. Who invites a convicted felon and a rapist to a presidential funeral? He took an oath and violated it by trying to overthrow an election. But he was still invited to a presidential funeral. That just doesn’t make any sense, to me. 🫤


Not at all, Dee. Honestly, I think you’re spot on. Knowing what you love and refusing to compromise on it isn’t a flaw, that’s self-awareness and self-respect. And the right person won’t see that as a problem, they’ll celebrate your passions right alongside you. I mean, or at least they should. Being single since 2000 just means you haven’t settled for less than you deserve, and I think that’s something to be proud of. You’re not the oddball at all. IMO, you’re the standard others should strive for.

Have you ever asked TKE Guy about his marriage with his ex, like, why they divorced or why he felt he wasn’t free to do the things he enjoyed?

I hope the two of you enjoyed the auto show, Dee. I remember the Charity Preview I’d go to each year. I had never been to an auto show before that. My date at the time, told me that people in the industry call it the “Auto Prom”. It sure did feel like it. It was SO glamorous and I swear, I felt like Cinderella each year I went.

It was such a magical event, and it was something I began to look forward to. Before that, the only “glamour” I associated with cars was when I finally got the floor mats clean in my own car without finding a random french fry, lol.


Yep, I couldn’t agree more. Trying to reason or have a conversation with Trump supporters is like arguing with a brick wall that also happens to be on fire. Their ignorance and cruelty go hand in hand, and frankly, I’d rather save my energy for people who actually have a heart and a brain. They are by far the dumbest people I have ever encountered in my entire life.


Yep. And my thoughts on that isn’t really directed to anyone, but giving up something you love for someone else is never the answer. Relationships should be about mutual respect and support, not sacrifice at the expense of your own happiness. And honestly, it goes both ways — it’s just as wrong to expect your partner to give up what they’re passionate about. Life’s too short to mold yourself into someone else’s ideal. I dunno, to me, love celebrates who you are, quirks and all, without conditions or compromises on the things that make you, you. Know what I mean?

Like, in my marriage, my husband and I both have our own passions, and neither of us would ever ask the other to give them up. He has his hobbies, and I have mine, and we respect and even encourage each other to pursue what makes us happy. I just think that’s how a partnership should work. I think it’s about lifting each other up, not forcing sacrifices. If someone expects you to give up something you love, that’s such a red flag, and it’s definitely not love.

I understand what you're saying about Trump but our very sad reality is that he's a former President and our President-elect so he's going to be at these things. I'm surprised he showed up.

TKEGuy and I have had a lot of talks about why past relationships didn't work out and where things went wrong. He's very introspective about these things. We also talk a lot about where we think we will have challenges and how we'll try to overcome them. It's very refreshing to be with someone who is so in touch with his feelings and thoughts.

I'm a person who has gone on vacations myself, gone to the movies by myself and gone to concerts, sports events and theater events by myself. I have no qualms about just going and doing what I want when I want. I know not everybody is comfortable doing that. I think TKEGuy has only done things when he has someone to do them with. We're a little different that way.

[Cheerio]

Originally Posted by cheerfulgreek

Trump shouldn’t have even been invited....

When (he) dies, is it mandatory there be a huge national funeral? I suppose it would start a second Civil War if there were not.

Or, someone might be able to convince (him) big national funerals for any dignitaries are wasteful excesses of time & money.

Nah, (he'll) insist (his) outgoing national event be held exclusively for Republicans, and those who can prove they voted for (him), within Mar-a--Lago. (He's) even having (his) lengthy farewell speech written and recorded in early preparation. Only Fox will be allowed to broadcast the events.

And should any other former US president die during the next four years, (he) reserves the right to not attend PLUS cancel any national service and official mourning period should the decedent be a democrat.

(rant/distraction over; back to the cold weather BRRRR)