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[XAntoftheSkyX]

Originally Posted by PrettyBoy

I remember the name now. They’re Tyranids. When he showed me pictures of his setup, his Imperial Guard setup stood out the most to me, because they looked kind of like an advanced WWII army. It was really amazing. This is interesting. What are the differences between the 40K armies vs the ones you’re painting? Can they mix the two when playing the game?

Yeah, I hear you on the YouTube’s. Interesting. Here’s some I subscribe to for my collection. The videos are great references.

https://youtu.be/hq_VJCb3Mr0?si=MQYCLrDu4wpTh4G-


https://youtu.be/CSpFHxiZ8Ec?si=92vtnQHH1F5bOicT

https://youtu.be/F6k69BQ3rb0?si=FTtVHqY17haV8gqQ


When I look at my collection, nothing quite matches the sophistication of curating a collection where each piece whispers tales of engineering marvels and design brilliance. It’s not just “cooler toys” for me, it’s a celebration of artistry, history, and innovation, all neatly scaled to fit on my shelves.

I totally get that for the display and artistic part of the hobby. On my end, having a model that is posed in an interesting or exciting way, or something that was changed by using other model bits or made with a more display-styled base with the added accomplishment of being able to say "I built/customized/painted that all by myself" (with help/inspiration from Youtube) makes it much more valuable in a certain way.

I enjoyed those videos, there's a lot of overlap with what I do and scale modeling with the techniques. I would like to get into airbrushing to get base layers done quickly and efficiently, but logistically it may not be possible without a lot of leg work and approval from The Boss.

As far as mixing models/armies goes: In the core rules with the Open Play ruleset, you can mix and match armies as much as you like, and have as much on the table as you want. I only play with the Matched Play ruleset, which is more equivalent to a proper sport or game, where you are limited in how much you can bring, and tries to balance each faction/army so that it's more on how well you play vs having a stronger army.

For Open Play, you can totally have Space Marines and Guard mixed together. For Matched play, you gain access to additional rules like "If your army is all SPACE MARINES, you can re-roll dice results of 1". Sometimes you can ally in small portions of other armies and not lose the benefits of having your main force be one army, but that's the exception and not the rule.

My main armies are the Imperial Knights (building-sized mech suits turned into war machines with a GOT vibe), the Adeptus Custodes (Literal superhumans with advanced gene-therapy and functionally immortal) and now the Drukhari (Dark Elves with a heavy raiding/pirate theme that are the most evil faction in the game by far, even when every other faction is very evil.) I chose Drukhari because I wsn't happy with how the other armies played. The Knights and the Custodes are tough, elite armies that leverage their relative power to be as efficient as possible to defeat their opponent. Drukhari on the other hand are what's known as a glass cannon, they can hit like trucks but are equally as fragile.

I'll stop there as that was actually the Reader's Digest version of all that, and I could easily let my autism run wild and hijack this thread even moreso.

[cheerfulgreek]

WIFLSRN: My staycation is over.

[Phrozen Sands]

Originally Posted by XAntoftheSkyX

I totally get that for the display and artistic part of the hobby. On my end, having a model that is posed in an interesting or exciting way, or something that was changed by using other model bits or made with a more display-styled base with the added accomplishment of being able to say "I built/customized/painted that all by myself" (with help/inspiration from Youtube) makes it much more valuable in a certain way.

I enjoyed those videos, there's a lot of overlap with what I do and scale modeling with the techniques. I would like to get into airbrushing to get base layers done quickly and efficiently, but logistically it may not be possible without a lot of leg work and approval from The Boss.

As far as mixing models/armies goes: In the core rules with the Open Play ruleset, you can mix and match armies as much as you like, and have as much on the table as you want. I only play with the Matched Play ruleset, which is more equivalent to a proper sport or game, where you are limited in how much you can bring, and tries to balance each faction/army so that it's more on how well you play vs having a stronger army.

For Open Play, you can totally have Space Marines and Guard mixed together. For Matched play, you gain access to additional rules like "If your army is all SPACE MARINES, you can re-roll dice results of 1". Sometimes you can ally in small portions of other armies and not lose the benefits of having your main force be one army, but that's the exception and not the rule.

My main armies are the Imperial Knights (building-sized mech suits turned into war machines with a GOT vibe), the Adeptus Custodes (Literal superhumans with advanced gene-therapy and functionally immortal) and now the Drukhari (Dark Elves with a heavy raiding/pirate theme that are the most evil faction in the game by far, even when every other faction is very evil.) I chose Drukhari because I wsn't happy with how the other armies played. The Knights and the Custodes are tough, elite armies that leverage their relative power to be as efficient as possible to defeat their opponent. Drukhari on the other hand are what's known as a glass cannon, they can hit like trucks but are equally as fragile.

I'll stop there as that was actually the Reader's Digest version of all that, and I could easily let my autism run wild and hijack this thread even moreso.

For the record I was messing with you and PB. But I did crack myself up though LOL!

Who’s “The Boss?” Must be The Wife. That’s why I asked you and PB what your wives think about all these toys.

[XAntoftheSkyX]

Originally Posted by Phrozen Sands

Who’s “The Boss?” Must be The Wife. That’s why I asked you and PB what your wives think about all these toys.

She's okay with it, but doesn't want it out on display in our living room. I just went to Ikea and got another cabinet to hide my models. She said she would be fine with a proper display case in a second room that isn't our living room, but that's a "next apartment" issue.

[agzg]

Originally Posted by XAntoftheSkyX

She's okay with it, but doesn't want it out on display in our living room. I just went to Ikea and got another cabinet to hide my models. She said she would be fine with a proper display case in a second room that isn't our living room, but that's a "next apartment" issue.

Not Warhammer, but in our last house my husband had a GIANT bookshelf that took up one whole side of my home office where he kept all his board games and you wouldn't believe the number of people who commented on them during meetings. I had one guy who used to spend the whole meeting looking at the bookshelf and sending me games he'd tried.

[PrettyBoy]

Originally Posted by Phrozen Sands

Lmao. Wow! You have any pictures on the internet you don’t know about? They find pictures of people then photoshop the image and then put it on the net. You talk about your brother a lot. Are y’all close? Do y’all look alike?

Probably pictures from Konclaves I’ve been to, but I think that’s just random artwork, which is what makes it funny and weird at the same time. My brother and I don’t really look alike, maybe somewhat, but in a way you definitely can tell we’re brothers. Yeah, we’re very close. Second to my wife, he’s my best friend.

Originally Posted by XAntoftheSkyX

I totally get that for the display and artistic part of the hobby. On my end, having a model that is posed in an interesting or exciting way, or something that was changed by using other model bits or made with a more display-styled base with the added accomplishment of being able to say "I built/customized/painted that all by myself" (with help/inspiration from Youtube) makes it much more valuable in a certain way.

I enjoyed those videos, there's a lot of overlap with what I do and scale modeling with the techniques. I would like to get into airbrushing to get base layers done quickly and efficiently, but logistically it may not be possible without a lot of leg work and approval from The Boss.

As far as mixing models/armies goes: In the core rules with the Open Play ruleset, you can mix and match armies as much as you like, and have as much on the table as you want. I only play with the Matched Play ruleset, which is more equivalent to a proper sport or game, where you are limited in how much you can bring, and tries to balance each faction/army so that it's more on how well you play vs having a stronger army.

For Open Play, you can totally have Space Marines and Guard mixed together. For Matched play, you gain access to additional rules like "If your army is all SPACE MARINES, you can re-roll dice results of 1". Sometimes you can ally in small portions of other armies and not lose the benefits of having your main force be one army, but that's the exception and not the rule.

My main armies are the Imperial Knights (building-sized mech suits turned into war machines with a GOT vibe), the Adeptus Custodes (Literal superhumans with advanced gene-therapy and functionally immortal) and now the Drukhari (Dark Elves with a heavy raiding/pirate theme that are the most evil faction in the game by far, even when every other faction is very evil.) I chose Drukhari because I wsn't happy with how the other armies played. The Knights and the Custodes are tough, elite armies that leverage their relative power to be as efficient as possible to defeat their opponent. Drukhari on the other hand are what's known as a glass cannon, they can hit like trucks but are equally as fragile.

I'll stop there as that was actually the Reader's Digest version of all that, and I could easily let my autism run wild and hijack this thread even moreso.

Let’s go ahead and hijack the thread then. 😂

This is really cool stuff, man. I was talking to one of my colleagues about it yesterday. He’s bringing in some of his books to show me this morning. It seems like it’d be hard to learn. Have you seen some folks with some terribly painted figures? And who hosts the games?

I hear you on the airbrushing. I have one, but haven’t used it yet. I definitely need it for layering my figures, though.

I’m about to start a podcast, when time allows. My wife told me because I know the history behind the cars in my collection, I should do something with all of that “useless information” (her words), so I decided to do a podcast with them. Should be cool.

I like the customization you’ve got going on. Very cool. I build my dioramas from the ground up so they’re all custom.

Originally Posted by Phrozen Sands

For the record I was messing with you and PB. But I did crack myself up though LOL!

Who’s “The Boss?” Must be The Wife. That’s why I asked you and PB what your wives think about all these toys.

As long as I’m not giving my “toys” (real car and model cars) more attention than I give her, they’re in their confined rooms and not all over the house, and I don’t bring a motorcycle home, she’s chill about it.

[XAntoftheSkyX]

Originally Posted by PrettyBoy

Let’s go ahead and hijack the thread then. ��

This is really cool stuff, man. I was talking to one of my colleagues about it yesterday. He’s bringing in some of his books to show me this morning. It seems like it’d be hard to learn. Have you seen some folks with some terribly painted figures? And who hosts the games?

I hear you on the airbrushing. I have one, but haven’t used it yet. I definitely need it for layering my figures, though.

I’m about to start a podcast, when time allows. My wife told me because I know the history behind the cars in my collection, I should do something with all of that “useless information” (her words), so I decided to do a podcast with them. Should be cool.

I like the customization you’ve got going on. Very cool. I build my dioramas from the ground up so they’re all custom.

Yeah the game takes a lot of learning to play. Usually people start off with the very basics, moving models, rolling dice and keeping a simple score for killing model units or being close to an area objective. Once that feels comfortable, more rules can be added on and larger armies can be used.

Games can be hosted in game stores that sell the models and hobby supplies like paint, tools, glue, etc. This can be just a friendly afternoon game between friends, or an organized event like a competitive tournament. But some of the large events would be held in hotels and organized by the community. This is a photo from one of my former local clubs in NJ, with two of my friends playing a game.

https://imgur.com/a/nljSF1D

As far as the art part of the hobby goes, I have seen it all. One of my friends does commission painting for armies, and his work is great, and others have difficulty coloring in the lines, as it were. Thankfully the distances we are from the models on the table are very forgiving for small mistakes. I generally don't care how someone's models are painted, my gripes are more for making sure the units and weapons are accurately shown and modeled so someone doesn't try to pull the wool over my eyes. Some people's joy is also more in rolling dice versus painting. I know until recently, that's where I was at.

This is a podcast episode with said painting friend. 3/4 of the guys on the episode used to be local to me when I lived in NJ, and they run the gamut from artist to coloring in the lines is hard.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Sn76R-oV9s

[Phrozen Sands]

Xant and PB’s response about their wives is exactly why I don’t have one. Too many rules. Women can be self-centered as hell Lol

[PrettyBoy]

Originally Posted by XAntoftheSkyX

Yeah the game takes a lot of learning to play. Usually people start off with the very basics, moving models, rolling dice and keeping a simple score for killing model units or being close to an area objective. Once that feels comfortable, more rules can be added on and larger armies can be used.

Games can be hosted in game stores that sell the models and hobby supplies like paint, tools, glue, etc. This can be just a friendly afternoon game between friends, or an organized event like a competitive tournament. But some of the large events would be held in hotels and organized by the community. This is a photo from one of my former local clubs in NJ, with two of my friends playing a game.

https://imgur.com/a/nljSF1D

As far as the art part of the hobby goes, I have seen it all. One of my friends does commission painting for armies, and his work is great, and others have difficulty coloring in the lines, as it were. Thankfully the distances we are from the models on the table are very forgiving for small mistakes. I generally don't care how someone's models are painted, my gripes are more for making sure the units and weapons are accurately shown and modeled so someone doesn't try to pull the wool over my eyes. Some people's joy is also more in rolling dice versus painting. I know until recently, that's where I was at.

This is a podcast episode with said painting friend. 3/4 of the guys on the episode used to be local to me when I lived in NJ, and they run the gamut from artist to coloring in the lines is hard.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Sn76R-oV9s

Yeah, I can see how the painting isn’t as important as the gameplay itself. Mine are for display only, so it’s imperative it has to look right. I’ve been doing figures since I was 19 so I’ve gotten pretty decent at it. I’ve seen some terrible dioramas and models, though.

What’s up with the detail not accurately showing the weapons? Isn’t that cheating? So the weapons the figures are holding count as points, too? All this time, I’m thinking it was about the size of the armies and weapons like the tanks the Imperial Guard has.

That’s a nice setup. When I get home from work, later on tonight I’ll check out that YouTube video.

Originally Posted by Phrozen Sands

Xant and PB’s response about their wives is exactly why I don’t have one. Too many rules. Women can be self-centered as hell Lol

Nah, not self-centered at all. My wife is remarkably tolerant, provided I respect her wishes. Second to Christ, nothing, including my cars, be it full sized or scaled down, could ever warrant more of my time, admiration, and devotion than my wife and kids. That’s a principle I uphold without question.

I think you should start by getting a real hobby first, because right now, knowing you search “back in the day” posts when you’re “bored”, your hobby is GreekChat. 😂

[Phrozen Sands]

Originally Posted by PrettyBoy

Nah, not self-centered at all. My wife is remarkably tolerant, provided I respect her wishes. Second to Christ, nothing, including my cars, be it full sized or scaled down, could ever warrant more of my time, admiration, and devotion than my wife and kids. That’s a principle I uphold without question.

I think you should start by getting a real hobby first, because right now, knowing you search “back in the day” posts when you’re “bored”, your hobby is GreekChat. 😂

Lmao! I play golf and shoot hoop with friends when I can. Two hobbies right there.

[agzg]

Originally Posted by Phrozen Sands

Xant and PB’s response about their wives is exactly why I don’t have one. Too many rules. Women can be self-centered as hell Lol

I don't think it's a rule to not want all your living space taken up by your spouse's hobby or your spouse's hobby to take up all their time and attention leaving none for you. That's just "being thoughtful to your partner."

FWIW I don't fill my living space with my knitting supplies and I keep my plant collection to a "this could reasonably be considered decor" level. My husband keeps his 3D printer in the basement and, even though the games were in my home office at one point, they were at least organized nicely and I didn't mind them being there. And now they're in the basement, too.

His other hobby is home automation stuff and that's all just integrated with our life, just like my plants LOL.

ETA: Now all my cricut shit, that's a problem. Thankfully I got some new bins this weekend!

[Phrozen Sands]

Originally Posted by agzg

I don't think it's a rule to not want all your living space taken up by your spouse's hobby or your spouse's hobby to take up all their time and attention leaving none for you. That's just "being thoughtful to your partner."

FWIW I don't fill my living space with my knitting supplies and I keep my plant collection to a "this could reasonably be considered decor" level. My husband keeps his 3D printer in the basement and, even though the games were in my home office at one point, they were at least organized nicely and I didn't mind them being there. And now they're in the basement, too.

His other hobby is home automation stuff and that's all just integrated with our life, just like my plants LOL.

ETA: Now all my cricut shit, that's a problem. Thankfully I got some new bins this weekend!

Yeah, I don’t know how married couples do it. I can’t. I’m the type of dude who can do the companionship for a short while, then I want her to go back home. No way I could spend time a lifetime with a nagging ass wife making up rules for me to follow Lol.

[cheerfulgreek]

Seriously? I mean, like seriously?
https://www.nytimes.com/live/2025/01/07/us/trump-news

[Sciencewoman]

Every time I think he can't possibly come up with anything nuttier to say, he does.

[Phrozen Sands]

Originally Posted by cheerfulgreek

Seriously? I mean, like seriously?
https://www.nytimes.com/live/2025/01/07/us/trump-news

Yeah, I saw that. Can he do that? I wonder what would happen if he did. This fool wants to annex Canada?