What do you feel like saying, right now?

[PrettyBoy]

Originally Posted by XAntoftheSkyX

Yeah the game takes a lot of learning to play. Usually people start off with the very basics, moving models, rolling dice and keeping a simple score for killing model units or being close to an area objective. Once that feels comfortable, more rules can be added on and larger armies can be used.

Games can be hosted in game stores that sell the models and hobby supplies like paint, tools, glue, etc. This can be just a friendly afternoon game between friends, or an organized event like a competitive tournament. But some of the large events would be held in hotels and organized by the community. This is a photo from one of my former local clubs in NJ, with two of my friends playing a game.

https://imgur.com/a/nljSF1D

As far as the art part of the hobby goes, I have seen it all. One of my friends does commission painting for armies, and his work is great, and others have difficulty coloring in the lines, as it were. Thankfully the distances we are from the models on the table are very forgiving for small mistakes. I generally don't care how someone's models are painted, my gripes are more for making sure the units and weapons are accurately shown and modeled so someone doesn't try to pull the wool over my eyes. Some people's joy is also more in rolling dice versus painting. I know until recently, that's where I was at.

This is a podcast episode with said painting friend. 3/4 of the guys on the episode used to be local to me when I lived in NJ, and they run the gamut from artist to coloring in the lines is hard.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Sn76R-oV9s

Yeah, I can see how the painting isn’t as important as the gameplay itself. Mine are for display only, so it’s imperative it has to look right. I’ve been doing figures since I was 19 so I’ve gotten pretty decent at it. I’ve seen some terrible dioramas and models, though.

What’s up with the detail not accurately showing the weapons? Isn’t that cheating? So the weapons the figures are holding count as points, too? All this time, I’m thinking it was about the size of the armies and weapons like the tanks the Imperial Guard has.

That’s a nice setup. When I get home from work, later on tonight I’ll check out that YouTube video.

Originally Posted by Phrozen Sands

Xant and PB’s response about their wives is exactly why I don’t have one. Too many rules. Women can be self-centered as hell Lol

Nah, not self-centered at all. My wife is remarkably tolerant, provided I respect her wishes. Second to Christ, nothing, including my cars, be it full sized or scaled down, could ever warrant more of my time, admiration, and devotion than my wife and kids. That’s a principle I uphold without question.

I think you should start by getting a real hobby first, because right now, knowing you search “back in the day” posts when you’re “bored”, your hobby is GreekChat. 😂

[Phrozen Sands]

Originally Posted by PrettyBoy

Nah, not self-centered at all. My wife is remarkably tolerant, provided I respect her wishes. Second to Christ, nothing, including my cars, be it full sized or scaled down, could ever warrant more of my time, admiration, and devotion than my wife and kids. That’s a principle I uphold without question.

I think you should start by getting a real hobby first, because right now, knowing you search “back in the day” posts when you’re “bored”, your hobby is GreekChat. 😂

Lmao! I play golf and shoot hoop with friends when I can. Two hobbies right there.

[XAntoftheSkyX]

Originally Posted by PrettyBoy

Yeah, I can see how the painting isn’t as important as the gameplay itself. Mine are for display only, so it’s imperative it has to look right. I’ve been doing figures since I was 19 so I’ve gotten pretty decent at it. I’ve seen some terrible dioramas and models, though.

What’s up with the detail not accurately showing the weapons? Isn’t that cheating? So the weapons the figures are holding count as points, too? All this time, I’m thinking it was about the size of the armies and weapons like the tanks the Imperial Guard has.

That’s a nice setup. When I get home from work, later on tonight I’ll check out that YouTube video.

It really depends on the people. I know some competitive people that are the best players in the world, and can produce museum-quality paint jobs for their models, and others that do the bare minimum. In the current ruleset for Matched Play, 10 of the 100 possible points come from being "Battle Ready" a standard of painting which is usually three distinct colors, and the model base with some sort of landscape on it achieved through textured paints (read: acrylics with some sort of grit or sand in them).

My concern with the accurate modeling of weapons is to limit people being "That Guy". Rarer than the internet would like you to believe, That Guy will remove a model that has a heavy weapon as a casualty, but actually he forgot it was the OTHER model that had the heavy weapon so he can still use it. Most organized tournaments follow the rule of What You See Is What You Get, or WYSIWYG, so your mental load is slightly less. For a casual or practice game I don't care, as friends and I will restart games quickly and change the army list or weapons to try and quickly test new ideas without having to have a million of the same models ready for the table for a strategy that may not work.

[PrettyBoy]

Originally Posted by XAntoftheSkyX

It really depends on the people. I know some competitive people that are the best players in the world, and can produce museum-quality paint jobs for their models, and others that do the bare minimum. In the current ruleset for Matched Play, 10 of the 100 possible points come from being "Battle Ready" a standard of painting which is usually three distinct colors, and the model base with some sort of landscape on it achieved through textured paints (read: acrylics with some sort of grit or sand in them).

My concern with the accurate modeling of weapons is to limit people being "That Guy". Rarer than the internet would like you to believe, That Guy will remove a model that has a heavy weapon as a casualty, but actually he forgot it was the OTHER model that had the heavy weapon so he can still use it. Most organized tournaments follow the rule of What You See Is What You Get, or WYSIWYG, so your mental load is slightly less. For a casual or practice game I don't care, as friends and I will restart games quickly and change the army list or weapons to try and quickly test new ideas without having to have a million of the same models ready for the table for a strategy that may not work.

As with anything, someone always finds a way to get around the rules. Yeah, I’d have more questions about the bases and weapons, because to my knowledge, the weapons the figures use are permanent fixtures. They’re attached? I was told the Imperial Guard are pretty weak without the other weapons like the tanks, howitzers, etc. they have. They still look the coolest, to me though.

[PrettyBoy]

What I came over here to say is that I’m pretty excited to see how my rust project turned out when I get home from work. I think I’m going to be pleased.

[Phrozen Sands]

Originally Posted by PrettyBoy

What I came over here to say is that I’m pretty excited to see how my rust project turned out when I get home from work. I think I’m going to be pleased.

What kind of project is that?

[XAntoftheSkyX]

Originally Posted by PrettyBoy

As with anything, someone always finds a way to get around the rules. Yeah, I’d have more questions about the bases and weapons, because to my knowledge, the weapons the figures use are permanent fixtures. They’re attached? I was told the Imperial Guard are pretty weak without the other weapons like the tanks, howitzers, etc. they have. They still look the coolest, to me though.

Yes, when you build the models you make a choice on which weapons to outfit or models with. For vehicles and larger models like the Knights many people magnetize them to easily change them, or for transportation ease.

The Guard are due for their new rulebook for this edition of the game in a month or so, there are model and rule previews on the Warhammer Community website. I haven't been too aware of them, but it seems like there are some... interesting changes.

[cheerfulgreek]

lol
Hilarious!
https://youtu.be/F2zM1oII_zk?si=wFg4nxlCnD0sJEz1

[Phrozen Sands]

Originally Posted by cheerfulgreek

Nope. Not ONE word. I was reading GreekChat while she tried to have a conversation with me. I acted as though she was invisible.

Friendly? A Trump supporter, friendly? Let’s be real, Phrozen. Trump supporters and friendliness don’t mix. Their whole persona is built on negativity and conflict, and I will not take any of them seriously when their worldview is basically a rejection of basic decency. Frankly, engaging with them feels like stooping to a level I have no interest in visiting. I mean, some of us do prefer to keep our standards intact.

CG takes anti-Trump to unseen levels Lol

Originally Posted by cheerfulgreek

lol
Hilarious!
https://youtu.be/F2zM1oII_zk?si=wFg4nxlCnD0sJEz1

LMAO! Right in front on Hillary, too. It’s almost like she knew he was looking and Kamala sensed he was looking LOL!

Anybody on here ever see the Monica Lewinsky documentary about her and Bill Clinton? Folks thought Bill’s DNA on her dress was spinach dip LOL! I hollered when I heard that.