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02-10-2024, 08:51 AM
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Doesn't the fact that Tracey Nadzieja had previously been a member of Sigma Pi disallow membership in Kappa Kappa Gamma?
Would that fall under "not being a member of another group or similar type"?
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I don't know about anyone else, but our requirements for Alumnae Initiation state that they can't be an initiated member of any other NPC, NPHC or Multi-Cultural group. We don't have any rule about men's groups.
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02-10-2024, 09:03 AM
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I don't know about anyone else, but our requirements for Alumnae Initiation state that they can't be an initiated member of any other NPC, NPHC or Multi-Cultural group. We don't have any rule about men's groups.
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I bet no one ever thought it would come to this, though.
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02-10-2024, 09:54 AM
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I don't know about anyone else, but our requirements for Alumnae Initiation state that they can't be an initiated member of any other NPC, NPHC or Multi-Cultural group. We don't have any rule about men's groups.
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I bet no one ever thought it would come to this, though.
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PLEASE, let this insanity stop! Let the powers that be realize the oaths that were broken, and will continue to be broken in the quest to destroy the very concept of sorority!
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02-10-2024, 12:41 PM
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PLEASE, let this insanity stop! Let the powers that be realize the oaths that were broken, and will continue to be broken in the quest to destroy the very concept of sorority!
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When honeychile speaks with exclamation marks, y’all better listen Lol. I hear you. I had to lane swerve when I read this.
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02-10-2024, 01:06 PM
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02-10-2024, 06:36 PM
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When honeychile speaks with exclamation marks, y’all better listen Lol. I hear you. I had to lane swerve when I read this.
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You flatter me, Phrozen Sands! And I love it!
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02-10-2024, 06:56 PM
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You flatter me, Phrozen Sands! And I love it! 
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I’m just preaching facts Lol
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02-10-2024, 10:50 AM
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Originally Posted by UVASquirrel
I don't know about anyone else, but our requirements for Alumnae Initiation state that they can't be an initiated member of any other NPC, NPHC or Multi-Cultural group. We don't have any rule about men's groups.
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I'm unfamiliar with the specifics of Delta Gamma's Alumnae Initiate requirements but I would assume that they're similar to your group's.
It's part of Delta Gamma's history that our founders agreed to have a male initiate in order to establish chapters outside of the South. This was during the 19th century though. Phi Delta Theta's George Banta was instrumental in establishing chapters in the norther part of the country.
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02-10-2024, 07:16 PM
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I'm unfamiliar with the specifics of Delta Gamma's Alumnae Initiate requirements but I would assume that they're similar to your group's.
It's part of Delta Gamma's history that our founders agreed to have a male initiate in order to establish chapters outside of the South. This was during the 19th century though. Phi Delta Theta's George Banta was instrumental in establishing chapters in the norther part of the country.
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These days, I'd expect a situation like with George Banta to be done with Honorary membership (Not sure on the rules on honorary memberships of men in the NPC) and the person that comes to mind as being in a situation situation to Banta in the year 2023 is Dr. Fran Becque who is a Pi Beta Phi sister.
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02-10-2024, 11:31 PM
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These days, I'd expect a situation like with George Banta to be done with Honorary membership (Not sure on the rules on honorary memberships of men in the NPC) and the person that comes to mind as being in a situation situation to Banta in the year 2023 is Dr. Fran Becque who is a Pi Beta Phi sister.
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I'm not sure what you mean about Fran?
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02-10-2024, 11:39 PM
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02-11-2024, 12:20 AM
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I'm not sure what you mean about Fran?
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That the person who to me seems to be the 21st century of George Banta in the fraternity world at the time that Delta Gamma gave him membership is Fran Becque (where an up and coming fraternity might be willing to give cross gender membership simply due to ability to help with all of the types of things that George Banta did)
(A compliment to Dr Becque)
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02-11-2024, 01:44 AM
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Originally Posted by naraht
That the person who to me seems to be the 21st century of George Banta in the fraternity world at the time that Delta Gamma gave him membership is Fran Becque (where an up and coming fraternity might be willing to give cross gender membership simply due to ability to help with all of the types of things that George Banta did)
(A compliment to Dr Becque)
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Dr. Fran Becque is a woman. She was initiated into Pi Beta Phi when she was in college. Are you suggesting that Dr. Becque is an example of a woman whose achievements are so great that a men's fraternity might extend her membership?
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02-12-2024, 01:39 AM
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Dr. Fran Becque is a woman. She was initiated into Pi Beta Phi when she was in college. Are you suggesting that Dr. Becque is an example of a woman whose achievements are so great that a men's fraternity might extend her membership? 
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Yes, I know, I've communicated with her, and I know she is a Pi Beta Phi sister. She is the closest person in the "Greek Universe" today that I can see to having that Potential. I'm not saying it is likely, but if it were to happen, I'd expect it to be a group with as little crossover with Pi Beta Phi as possible (either one of the NALFO or APIDA ethnic fraternities???)
Sorry to have taken this so off topic.
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