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Originally Posted by naraht
Not sure what the "and there it is" means here, but having been a member of a co-ed community service fraternity, I *definitely* dealt with that. I've seen chapters that *do* have those rules, but almost all have a caveat that "If they were involved before, then it is OK".
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The author mentioned that an anti-Greek organization at her campus, Engender, reportedly believes that integrating women into a fraternity will change male behavior. The author liked the idea of a co-ed social group ("fraternity") and joined one. She then reported that the members of her co-ed group are known to have sexual relations with one another. My reaction to that was "and there it is!", meaning, "and here we now have a co-ed group where people ["men and women"] are still having sex with each other." Contrary to Engender's hopes and theories, the idea of bringing the females into a male space didn't cause less opportunities for fooling around in the author's group.
Now, mutual intimacy is not the same as sexual assault. I am aware of that. But it's only a matter of time before that situation comes up (as it would anywhere, fraternity or not). It will be no surprise when one member is romantically interested in another and makes unwanted advances on her/him. I'm not sure if you mean that the situations were awkward; but, you have indicated that you have seen this yourself in your co-ed organization.
I am merely venting about the folly of the idea "put men and women together and men will for sure want to change their behavior!" To clarify, I don't think men are a bunch of mindless turds that can't control themselves. But, let's get real, men are totally wired up differently than women. Aside from the fact that sexual assault is NEVER ok, it's no shame or shocker that men have high sex drives.