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02-02-2021, 12:37 PM
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Originally Posted by shirley1929
Or is cute and smart but a total jackhole to people she thinks is beneath her?
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Sometimes these are the exact people that recommendation letters serve to benefit though so I’m not sure that’s a strong enough argument for me to want to defend them.
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02-02-2021, 04:45 PM
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Originally Posted by GoldenAnchor
Sometimes these are the exact people that recommendation letters serve to benefit though so I’m not sure that’s a strong enough argument for me to want to defend them.
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LOL - Fair enough, but I do think there are esoteric reasons for a recommendation (or non-recommendation).
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02-03-2021, 10:56 AM
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LOL - Fair enough, but I do think there are esoteric reasons for a recommendation (or non-recommendation).
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By esoteric, you mean something in the Ritual of a particular GLO?
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02-03-2021, 06:29 PM
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By esoteric, you mean something in the Ritual of a particular GLO?
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No, more like things that aren't on the resume/panhellenic form (which will only include stats/numbers) that will be the only information a Pi Phi chapter would be allowed to review if they're not allowed any sort of outside input. Things like "she's a drunk", "I watched her help a homeless man cross the street without anyone knowing she was doing it", "She backed into a parked car and and drove away without leaving a note". Character traits that can't be seen in an application that's full of grade stats and activities.
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02-03-2021, 10:20 PM
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You know that most chapters are going to take to their phones to learn inside stuff about the PNMs, so that's another reason that banning recs is useless. True example: a woman from another sorority called me and said that "Annie Smith", a PNM, had made it to the third parties of my sorority and she thought I'd like to know that Annie had a big photo of herself on social media peeing on the main street of our town on New Years Eve. I checked and astonishingly, it was still there. I called the chapter's recruitment chair and told her to check it out and let the chapter vote. The girl was gone from our parties after that and didn't even make it a semester at the college. We could have had this real gem and all the problems that went with her in our new member class...because there had been no rec, negative or positive.
Someone from my sorority tried to feed me a story that they were getting rid of recs to even the playing field. Are you kidding? A) This will cause chapters to be even more insistent about only pledging girls that someone knows, and B) Big chapters don't have enough time to find out great things about an unknown girl--how many PNMs does Bama have every year? Nor do they have time to find out if a girl is a chapter-destroying drama queen or someone who will break every rule of the chapter within 2 weeks.
I could go on for hours about how this will negatively affect sororities and PNMs.
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02-03-2021, 02:56 PM
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Originally Posted by GoldenAnchor
Sometimes these are the exact people that recommendation letters serve to benefit though so I’m not sure that’s a strong enough argument for me to want to defend them.
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My exact thoughts.
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