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Old 10-09-2020, 10:38 AM
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That's actually not what the sentence is saying. Look at it in context: the previous sentence is about the number of members of AKA. "With a total membership approaching 1 million, is a parenthetical. "All working informally in their communities" refers to "other members" at the beginning of the sentence, not the entire membership of the Divine Nine. The next paragraph is a quote from someone who is a member of another D9 group.

And so what if the reporter was formerly a sportswriter?
People in media change beats ALL THE TIME. Team beat writers (which she was for the Nationals for several years) are as in-depth on those beats as political writers, business writers, etc. are on their beats. Nice info cherry-picking.
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Old 10-09-2020, 01:10 PM
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And so what if the reporter was formerly a sportswriter?
People in media change beats ALL THE TIME.
Of course, that's fine.

But, someone whose journalistic experience was - until four months ago - compiling box scores for MLB.com does not have the sophistication or experience to engage in broad-based statistical analysis of political organizing trends.

Since her claim was made without evidence (such as quoting a subject matter expert or providing citable data points), we are left to rely on her personal expertise.

I personally choose not to rely on personal expertise for a statement on the sociology of political organizing when said expertise is limited to compiling box scores for San Diego Padres games.

Others may do so, if you choose. No problem!

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Old 10-09-2020, 01:30 PM
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Of course, that's fine.

But, someone whose journalistic experience was - until four months ago - compiling box scores for MLB.com does not have the sophistication or experience to engage in broad-based statistical analysis of political organizing trends.

Since her claim was made without evidence (such as quoting a subject matter expert or providing citable data points), we are left to rely on her personal expertise.

I personally choose not to rely on personal expertise for a statement on the sociology of political organizing when said expertise is limited to compiling box scores for San Diego Padres games.

Others may do so, if you choose. No problem!
This is like saying that just because you work at McDonald’s you don’t know how to cook escargots. Your job is not the sum total of your knowledge.
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Old 10-09-2020, 01:38 PM
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This is like saying that just because you work at McDonald’s you don’t know how to cook escargots.
Almost. It's more like saying just because you work at McDonald's you don't know how to calibrate the accelerometer and gyroscope on an inertial measurement unit.

You might be able to, but I'm not willing to assume so in the absence of evidence.

Others are free to make that assumption, however.
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Old 10-09-2020, 03:25 PM
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Of course, that's fine.

But, someone whose journalistic experience was - until four months ago - compiling box scores for MLB.com does not have the sophistication or experience to engage in broad-based statistical analysis of political organizing trends.
Perhaps you missed the part of her bio where it says she was the Post's Washington Nationals beat reporter from 2014-2018. (Or, more likely, chose to ignore it.)

Is this a bit? Please tell me you're just doing a bit.
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Old 10-09-2020, 03:41 PM
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Perhaps you missed the part of her bio where it says she was the Post's Washington Nationals beat reporter from 2014-2018.
The Washington Nationals ... as in the baseball team?

Like I said, I don't agree reporting on baseball games qualifies one to undertake original analysis on the sociology of political organizing, to build a particle accelerator, or to design a naval frigate.
  • If this were Bob Woodward, Christiane Amanpour, or Hannah Arendt, I would accept her making an assertion like this without presenting any evidence (e.g. a quote from an academic or the citation of a data set) because of a demonstrated background and pedigree in political journalism that makes them a SME on the topic.
  • If it's Perez Hilton, Samantha Ponder, or Chelsea Janes, I'm inclined to skepticism in the total absence of any evidence (e.g. a quote from an academic or the citation of a data set).
The basis of media literacy is critical evaluation of information presented.

Like I said, others are absolutely free to disagree. I love that we're able to share a rainbow of perspectives in this marketplace of ideas! Thanks, Sister Havana!
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Old 10-09-2020, 06:00 PM
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Is this a bit? Please tell me you're just doing a bit.
Bits are entertaining. Whatever this is, is not.
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Old 10-09-2020, 10:14 PM
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Anyway, enough of punctuation, and back to our discussion of Kamala!

FactCheck at the Annenberg Public Policy Center has put up a pretty good page cataloging many of Harris' lies, misstatements, and omissions:

https://www.factcheck.org/2020/08/fa...kamala-harris/

Politifact also has a page dedicated to Kamala Harris' falsehoods I found interesting to read:

https://www.politifact.com/factcheck...=kamala-harris
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Old 10-09-2020, 10:35 PM
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Anyway, enough of punctuation, and back to our discussion of Kamala!

FactCheck at the Annenberg Public Policy Center has put up a pretty good page cataloging many of Harris' lies, misstatements, and omissions:

https://www.factcheck.org/2020/08/fa...kamala-harris/
https://www.factcheck.org/2020/10/fa...ential-debate/

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Politifact also has a page dedicated to Kamala Harris' falsehoods I found interesting to read:

https://www.politifact.com/factcheck...=kamala-harris
https://www.politifact.com/factcheck...ker=mike-pence
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Old 10-09-2020, 10:42 PM
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Absolutely. I didn't post Mike Pence's page here, though, because the title of this thread is "Kamala Harris" so it seemed a bit off-topic to discuss people not named Kamala Harris. But I digress.
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Dude. Go back and reread what I wrote about the sentence.
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That's actually not what the sentence is saying. Look at it in context: the previous sentence is about the number of members of AKA. "With a total membership approaching 1 million” is a parenthetical. "All working informally in their communities" refers to "other members" at the beginning of the sentence, not the entire membership of the Divine Nine. The next paragraph is a quote from someone who is a member of another D9 group.
She is not making a claim about the entire membership of the Divine Nine, despite your choosing to read it that way.
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