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07-03-2020, 08:21 PM
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Oh no of course but I've heard of schools widdling down their new member periods to a week.
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07-03-2020, 11:44 PM
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Oh no of course but I've heard of schools widdling down their new member periods to a week.
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Sigh, Cookiez, no you haven't or if you have heard such rank misinformation, you should have known better than to believe it. This is not true for any NPC group. And we are specifically talking about NPC here.
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07-04-2020, 12:11 AM
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Sigh, Cookiez, no you haven't or if you have heard such rank misinformation, you should have known better than to believe it. This is not true for any NPC group. And we are specifically talking about NPC here.
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She may be thinking of those fraternities that initiate right after bid acceptance (?).
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07-04-2020, 08:38 AM
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Back in the day when dinosaurs roamed the earth, pledge periods lasted an entire quarter/semester. Those of us who put on our best animal skins and ambled over the sorority cave for our pledge meetings feel that we were much better prepared for initiation. We had a thorough knowledge of our orgs and histories, as well as the other orgs on campus. We learned the greek alphabet, the names of the other fraternities and sororities on campus, the abbreviations of those names, their badges and pledge pins and had to be able to recognize them on sight. We even learned where each fraternity and sorority on campus was founded and each founding date. Then a couple of sororities decided to shorten their pledge periods, and the other orgs joined suit-many, or all, without consulting their constituency. So we get new members who have a "skim the surface"knowledge of his/her org's history and initiates who are surprised to find out that their chosen orgs had a distinct religious persuasion.
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07-04-2020, 08:40 AM
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I still can't figure out why anyone thought that was a better thing. There were those who spouted that it prevented hazing but I have never seen any proof of that.
My pledge class felt cherished during that time.
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07-04-2020, 09:08 AM
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I was told (truthfully or not) that the shorter pledge program was for better retention of each pledge class. Well, yes and no. Pledges did have to learn everything that FSUZeta mentioned above, keep their grades up, and get to know their chapter sisters & pledges. For some pledges, that was a deal breaker, and they would depledge. Others thrived on this system, getting to know their sorority on a more personal level. Some of the ways we learned are now considered hazing, such as pledge books - things that most who had to have them enjoyed. I never heard of anyone who was punished for not having one, but I'm sure that there are bad apple chapters who did.
I can't help but feel that in most cases, the bad apple chapters ruined it for everyone.
So... now we have New Members who don't understand the whys behind their own rituals, and they want to change things to suit them. It doesn't - and shouldn't! - work that way!
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07-04-2020, 01:10 PM
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I was told (truthfully or not) that the shorter pledge program was for better retention of each pledge class. Well, yes and no. Pledges did have to learn everything that FSUZeta mentioned above, keep their grades up, and get to know their chapter sisters & pledges. For some pledges, that was a deal breaker, and they would depledge. Others thrived on this system, getting to know their sorority on a more personal level. Some of the ways we learned are now considered hazing, such as pledge books - things that most who had to have them enjoyed. I never heard of anyone who was punished for not having one, but I'm sure that there are bad apple chapters who did.
I can't help but feel that in most cases, the bad apple chapters ruined it for everyone.
So... now we have New Members who don't understand the whys behind their own rituals, and they want to change things to suit them. It doesn't - and shouldn't! - work that way!
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The cynic in me says that the shortened pledge periods are all about HQs getting all of those initiate fees which would ordinarily not be paid due to attrition during the semester. If nothing else, that's a pretty serious bonus. Probably amounts to some pretty serious money for larger orgs.
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07-04-2020, 03:35 PM
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The cynic in me says that the shortened pledge periods are all about HQs getting all of those initiate fees which would ordinarily not be paid due to attrition during the semester. If nothing else, that's a pretty serious bonus. Probably amounts to some pretty serious money for larger orgs.
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The cynic in me agrees with the cynic in you 💯
6 weeks is fine for a smaller chapter at a smaller school....chapters of 200+, I don’t know how you’d do it. (Not to mention that at many of those schools there are practically mandatory campus wide events that take up time, ie weekly football games).
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07-10-2020, 08:41 PM
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So... now we have New Members who don't understand the whys behind their own rituals, and they want to change things to suit them. It doesn't - and shouldn't! - work that way!
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This type of entitlement reminds me of something orange.
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07-11-2020, 02:32 PM
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This type of entitlement reminds me of something orange.
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To which GLO do you belong?
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