Indiana University Recruitment 2020

[Titchou]

Originally Posted by navane

73 snap bids were offered? If that was the case, then not many accepted?

Suicides can't get Snap Bids. COB, yes, but not Snap.

[navane]

Originally Posted by Titchou

Suicides can't get Snap Bids. COB, yes, but not Snap.

Ok...thank you because I was when I read that; but, IU is often in another league when it comes to recruitment quirks, so I had to ask. ForeverRoses specifically stated:

Originally Posted by ForeverRoses

I was told (although I don’t see it written down) that everyone that SIPed and was not matched WAS offered a snap bid to sonewhere

So, maybe she meant to say they were offered COB bids because snap bids doesn't make any sense in this context. Even then, 73 COB bids offered between how many chapters? That seems like a lot.

[Sororitysock]

Originally Posted by Titchou

Suicides can't get Snap Bids. COB, yes, but not Snap.

This is not correct. Those who SIP and fail to receive a bid to their desired chapter ARE eligible for snap bids. They just aren't eligible for quota additions. It's always been like this in RFM. See page 136 of the current Green Book.

• Women listing intentional single preferences on their membership recruitment acceptance binding agreement (MRABA) are eligible for snap bidding.

[Titchou]

Originally Posted by Sororitysock

This is not correct. Those who SIP and fail to receive a bid to their desired chapter ARE eligible for snap bids. They just aren't eligible for quota additions. It's always been like this in RFM. See page 136 of the current Green Book.

• Women listing intentional single preferences on their membership recruitment acceptance binding agreement (MRABA) are eligible for snap bidding.

You are correct and I was wrong-mea culpa! Long day with no heat at work had my brain frozen!

[MSKKG]

Originally Posted by Titchou

You are correct and I was wrong-mea culpa! Long day with no heat at work had my brain frozen!

NO HEAT?!? Bless your heart (in the nice way--HAHAHA!!!). Hope that problem has been fixed.

[ForeverRoses]

Originally Posted by navane

73 snap bids were offered? If that was the case, then not many accepted?

correct. Not many of the snap bid invitations were accepted unfortunately. I guess some of the snap bid/SIP women were holding out for informal recruitment. Which for most of the participating chapters opened and closed in the blink of an eye.
Even with all of the changes in the past few years at IU, it is still competitive recruitment, mid-west style. With a quota of 56 and average chapter size around 200, if you don't have an open mind and you are stuck in a tier mentality of "I just didn't fit with them" then you may not end up Greek at all.

[Iota_JWH]

AOII took 56 new members from formal recruitment.

[aephi alum]

Originally Posted by Sororitysock

This is not correct. Those who SIP and fail to receive a bid to their desired chapter ARE eligible for snap bids. They just aren't eligible for quota additions. It's always been like this in RFM. See page 136 of the current Green Book.

• Women listing intentional single preferences on their membership recruitment acceptance binding agreement (MRABA) are eligible for snap bidding.

Is that a new thing with RFM? When I went through rush (yes, it was still called rush back in the Mesozoic Era) people who SIP'd were not eligible for snap bids. But it's entirely possible that Panhel on my campus didn't have a complete understanding of the rules.

[GoldenAnchor]

Page 132 from this link: https://www.npcwomen.org/wp-content/...nformation.pdf)

“All potential new members who attended at least one event during primary recruitment are eligible for snap bidding. Women listing intentional single preferences on their membership recruitment acceptance binding agreement (MRABA) are eligible for snap bidding.”

Anyone that participates in at least one event is eligible for a snap.

ETA: There is a portion that describes having people offered snap bids signing MRABA’s but it’s not a requirement to sign before getting a snap bid.

[33girl]

So in other words, the person who can’t get a snap is Susie your rugby teammate who wanted to join but didn’t want to go through rush. The only way Susie gets a bid is through COB. Mandy your roommate however, who only went through the first round and dropped out, is eligible to get a snap.

Also “SIP” is just the politically correct name of suiciding, which I dislike because it plays down what a serious decision suiciding really is.

[ChioLu]

Where is the LIKE button???

[Forgetmenotivy]

We need to remember snap bidding is only for those chapters not matching quota. So it is unlikely someone who dropped from formal recruitment would accept a bid from a chapter not making quota. The chances are decreased even more that the chapter the person wants is extending a bid to someone they dropped.

[IndianaSigKap]

Originally Posted by Forgetmenotivy

We need to remember snap bidding is only for those chapters not matching quota. So it is unlikely someone who dropped from formal recruitment would accept a bid from a chapter not making quota. The chances are decreased even more that the chapter the person wants is extending a bid to someone they dropped.

Not always true. If RFM is set too tightly then it is entirely possible for a strong chapter to have to snap bid. If you're a strong recruiting chapter and you can only invite 2x quota to preference, you could easily miss quota by 1 or 2 if you have invited girls to preference who were legacies to their other pref chapter and rank their legacy chapters over yours. It happens more than you think because snap bids aren't always visible to the majority of the chapter.

[Forgetmenotivy]

I never said anything that was absolute. I used the word unlikely. The odds are further diminished that a top chapter missing quota by 1 or 2 and the pnm doing an sip would want the same thing. I have worked with RFM since it started. I know every once in a while a top chapter misses quota by 1 or 2 but that is not the norm.

[SigmaCat]

Weird stuff happens.

IIRC, someone recently posted a rush story that involved a snap bid (that ended up expiring before they could accept) from a mid-tier chapter they'd really wanted from the jump.

And some PNMs will have changes of heart about mid/lower tier chapters after dropping out. We definitely benefited from snaps.