Indiana University Recruitment 2018

IowaPiPhi · #1 01-14-2018, 02:35 PM

So I have a question. And this is just my wondering as she visits houses. She is visiting her legacy chapter as well as another that she loves. I know her legacy chapter puts her on first bid list per the constitution. If after all this is done and she finds she loves the other house and lists them first, but is not on their first bid list, is there a chance she gets cut completely? Her legacy chapter does not take QAs.

GreekOne · #2 01-14-2018, 03:01 PM

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Originally Posted by IowaPiPhi

So I have a question. And this is just my wondering as she visits houses. She is visiting her legacy chapter as well as another that she loves. I know her legacy chapter puts her on first bid list per the constitution. If after all this is done and she finds she loves the other house and lists them first, but is not on their first bid list, is there a chance she gets cut completely? Her legacy chapter does not take QAs.

I don't know for certain. However, it was my understanding that if the pnms maximized their options, that they would definitely get a bid. What you are describing would imply that this is not the case.

33girl · #3 01-14-2018, 03:30 PM

If the sororities could opt out of QAs, I don't know how a bid could be guaranteed, unless they go to whoever was next on the PNM's ranking list (provided that chapter takes QAs).

IndianaSigKap · #4 01-14-2018, 03:39 PM

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If the sororities could opt out of QAs, I don't know how a bid could be guaranteed, unless they go to whoever was next on the PNM's ranking list (provided that chapter takes QAs).

This is exactly what I have been wondering. If Indiana is allowing chapters to opt out of QAs, then there could be PNMs bidless even if they maximize their options. A PNM could be going to two chapters which will not take QAs and match. I have not heard that IU is guaranteeing placement.

GLE23 · #5 01-14-2018, 07:54 PM

My D had two parties today. First house was one that didn't start as a favorite, but as cuts have been made and house parties attended, she liked it more and more and was happy to have it on her list today. The second party was at her absolute favorite house -- it's been her favorite since the first visit. Each party before today was great, with strong conversations and really feeling a connection with every girl she talked with. She was on cloud 9 going to the final party today. But, after the party, she called me in tears. The girl she talked with today was totally unengaged kept looking around the room and made no effort to connect. She's worried that this girl "holds all the cards" and all the other positives until today are meaningless and she won't get a bid. I wasn't in a sorority, so I have no idea of what to say to her. Any thoughts? So appreciative!

BUDelta4Life · #6 01-14-2018, 08:38 PM

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My D had two parties today. First house was one that didn't start as a favorite, but as cuts have been made and house parties attended, she liked it more and more and was happy to have it on her list today. The second party was at her absolute favorite house -- it's been her favorite since the first visit. Each party before today was great, with strong conversations and really feeling a connection with every girl she talked with. She was on cloud 9 going to the final party today. But, after the party, she called me in tears. The girl she talked with today was totally unengaged kept looking around the room and made no effort to connect. She's worried that this girl "holds all the cards" and all the other positives until today are meaningless and she won't get a bid. I wasn't in a sorority, so I have no idea of what to say to her. Any thoughts? So appreciative!

That girl doesn't "hold all the cards." Your daughter's final placement on the bid list will be based on all the visits and interactions she had during the process. It's unfortunate she had that experience today, but maybe the active member was tired or more introverted. It might have nothing to do with your daughter. Tell her to stay positive and also be happy that she liked the other house she visited today, too. She should be pleased with receiving a bid from either chapter.

GreekOne · #7 01-14-2018, 08:45 PM

[She's worried that this girl "holds all the cards" and all the other positives until today are meaningless and she won't get a bid. I wasn't in a sorority, so I have no idea of what to say to her. Any thoughts? So appreciative![/QUOTE]

Sorry to hear that happened. Help her to understand that in chapters of this size, she will probably not click with every single person. There will be members that she is closer to than others. If this girl wasn't engaged, it does not mean that she is done. Perhaps this girl was looking for someone else that she knew.

As for membership selection, every chapter does it differently. And, it is done differently now than when most of us on here were collegians. We always kept cumulative rankings. So, if someone got negative feedback at one party, it could be balanced by positive feedback from prior rounds.

At this point, if she attended preference round (today's parties) she is on the bid list for both chapters that she visited. It really comes down to how high on the list she will appear. Chapters have to invite more than quota to these parties because they have to assume that some will go elsewhere. So, they go down the list and extend the bids from #1 to #54 etc. until quota is met. There could be 120 on the list and they may hit the quota well before going the whole way through. If she is very low on the list due to today's party, she may not get the bid. However, if the chapters take quota additions, even if she is not at the very top of her list, she could still get a bid.

Hope this helps! In the end, it is now beyond her control. Encourage her to distract herself with something else and anticipate the best on Tuesday. Good luck!

GLE23 · #8 01-14-2018, 09:39 PM

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[She's worried that this girl "holds all the cards" and all the other positives until today are meaningless and she won't get a bid. I wasn't in a sorority, so I have no idea of what to say to her. Any thoughts? So appreciative!

Sorry to hear that happened. Help her to understand that in chapters of this size, she will probably not click with every single person. There will be members that she is closer to than others. If this girl wasn't engaged, it does not mean that she is done. Perhaps this girl was looking for someone else that she knew.

As for membership selection, every chapter does it differently. And, it is done differently now than when most of us on here were collegians. We always kept cumulative rankings. So, if someone got negative feedback at one party, it could be balanced by positive feedback from prior rounds.

At this point, if she attended preference round (today's parties) she is on the bid list for both chapters that she visited. It really comes down to how high on the list she will appear. Chapters have to invite more than quota to these parties because they have to assume that some will go elsewhere. So, they go down the list and extend the bids from #1 to #54 etc. until quota is met. There could be 120 on the list and they may hit the quota well before going the whole way through. If she is very low on the list due to today's party, she may not get the bid. However, if the chapters take quota additions, even if she is not at the very top of her list, she could still get a bid.

Hope this helps! In the end, it is now beyond her control. Encourage her to distract herself with something else and anticipate the best on Tuesday. Good luck![/QUOTE]

Thanks for your posts answering my questions! My heart is feeling heavy for her because I want for her what she wants and I know how it it will be for her (and me) to wait for bid night for the outcome. Silver lining... She went to her second choice house first and happily called me between rounds to say she enjoyed it and could see herself being happy there. I'm so glad that feeling was genuine and not contrived due to a disappointing experience at her favorite house. Now she and her friends are burying their emotions in BJ's pizookies. What an emotional roller coaster 11 days it's been for them! Sending good vibes, warm wishes, and virtual hugs to all the moms and their PNMs.