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[OleMissGlitter]

Originally Posted by SAMKD

Any idea what the quotas were?

Each chapter sets their own quota based on their past and current stats/numbers. (It's called Variable quota). So, there isn't a "set" number like in years past that each house has to meet.

[ForeverRoses]

Originally Posted by OleMissGlitter

Each chapter sets their own quota based on their past and current stats/numbers. (It's called Variable quota). So, there isn't a "set" number like in years past that each house has to meet.

Do they set their own quota independently, or are they each given their own quota by the RFM specialist/Greek life? And does each chapter get a minimum quota based on the number of women that attended preference?

Because if they are setting an arbitrary quota based on what the chapter wants/needs without regard for the number of PNMs going through recruitment, then that IS "bed rush".

So I assume there are some guidelines for how many PNMs each chapter must take.

And just from afar, I know that a few women were excited that their chapters were taking PNM classes that were smaller than last year. I hope that OleMiss doesn't fall into the smaller classes = more exclusive chapters trap.

[ladybug12]

Originally Posted by ForeverRoses

Do they set their own quota independently, or are they each given their own quota by the RFM specialist/Greek life? And does each chapter get a minimum quota based on the number of women that attended preference?

Because if they are setting an arbitrary quota based on what the chapter wants/needs without regard for the number of PNMs going through recruitment, then that IS "bed rush".

So I assume there are some guidelines for how many PNMs each chapter must take.

And just from afar, I know that a few women were excited that their chapters were taking PNM classes that were smaller than last year. I hope that OleMiss doesn't fall into the smaller classes = more exclusive chapters trap.

The variable quota numbers are set by NPC membership team members who work with the campus.

[shirley1929]

Originally Posted by ForeverRoses

And just from afar, I know that a few women were excited that their chapters were taking PNM classes that were smaller than last year. I hope that OleMiss doesn't fall into the smaller classes = more exclusive chapters trap.

From my perspective, unfortunately they are already there. More exclusive/smaller = better. IMO there's too much of a swing in new member class size, when some are getting less than 100, and some almost 200. I get variable quota, but that's pretty tough to have a 100 person difference.

My PNM/rec girl had a rough go of it. She got cut by favorites each round, but kept finding a new favorite to love each round. Unfortunately when she was down to two at pref, she got the 2nd choice of the two, when she had fallen in love (yet again) with her 1st choice. It's hard to stay positive when that happens. She's giving her found home a shot, but is feeling pretty down about the whole experience.

[KSUViolet06]

I haven't worked with variable Q as a volunteer because it was not in use at a lot of the schools I worked with in the last few years.

However, it remains to be seen if chapters who heavily benefit from VQ can retain.

Ex: If you get like, 100 vs. say everyone's 60, but 40 of them depledge, it ends up not actually helping you.

[33girl]

Do most of the campi where VQ is being used have chapters that can handle it, even the smallest? That is, there aren't quotas of 200 going to a chapter with only 125.

[SAMKD]

Originally Posted by OleMissGlitter

Each chapter sets their own quota based on their past and current stats/numbers. (It's called Variable quota). So, there isn't a "set" number like in years past that each house has to meet.

Last year there were 3 different quotas assigned by Panhellenic based on house size and recruiting strength. I thought they were doing the same this year? Letting the sororities choose their own quotas would not seem to be in line with helping the chapters reach parity - the stated original reason for choosing to use a variable quota.

[Herbie]

Nebraska previously had variable quota and it was removed within the last decade. I don't have stats on then vs now but I thought it did a good job at keeping the chapters on even footing as far as total members.

[thetalady]

Originally Posted by SAMKD

Last year there were 3 different quotas assigned by Panhellenic based on house size and recruiting strength. I thought they were doing the same this year? Letting the sororities choose their own quotas would not seem to be in line with helping the chapters reach parity - the stated original reason for choosing to use a variable quota.

The chapters absolutely do NOT get to "chose their own quotas" under VQ. What a train wreck that would be! It does look like there were again 3 quotas in play this year at Ole Miss... one very low 100's (90-110ish), mid 100's (120-130's) and high 100's (160-180).

I am uncomfortable with pledge classes over 125 members. It is going to be a lot of work for those chapters to retain all of those members through pledgeship, initiation and beyond. Roll up those sleeves ladies, the work is ahead of us!

[OleMissGlitter]

Originally Posted by thetalady

The chapters absolutely do NOT get to "chose their own quotas" under VQ. What a train wreck that would be! It does look like there were again 3 quotas in play this year at Ole Miss... one very low 100's (90-110ish), mid 100's (120-130's) and high 100's (160-180).

I am uncomfortable with pledge classes over 125 members. It is going to be a lot of work for those chapters to retain all of those members through pledgeship, initiation and beyond. Roll up those sleeves ladies, the work is ahead of us!

Ahh so there are 3 quotas? I guess what I was told was right, because the numbers are based on each chapter's numbers from previous years. So do the stronger recruiting houses get to say, "this year we would like a lower quota because our retention rate is so high?" Or does Panhellenic "tell' them?

And I agree with you big time! Anything over 125 is just crazy! I cannot imagine being the new member educator for a NM class with over 100! WOW! That becomes a full time job for the collegian.

[clemsongirl]

Originally Posted by OleMissGlitter

Ahh so there are 3 quotas? I guess what I was told was right, because the numbers are based on each chapter's numbers from previous years. So do the stronger recruiting houses get to say, "this year we would like a lower quota because our retention rate is so high?" Or does Panhellenic "tell' them?

And I agree with you big time! Anything over 125 is just crazy! I cannot imagine being the new member educator for a NM class with over 100! WOW! That becomes a full time job for the collegian.

The NPC team and the campus professionals decide what the quotas will be for each group, but I think each chapter has an idea of where their quota will fall because they have to prepare for Bid Day ahead of time.

So NPC and the campus professionals will say ABC is the biggest chapter and has high retention, thus doesn't need as many women to reach average chapter size after recruitment as DEF, who may be smaller and not have as high a retention rate as ABC does.

[thetalady]

Originally Posted by OleMissGlitter

Ahh so there are 3 quotas? I guess what I was told was right, because the numbers are based on each chapter's numbers from previous years. So do the stronger recruiting houses get to say, "this year we would like a lower quota because our retention rate is so high?" Or does Panhellenic "tell' them?

The RFM/ NPC team sets quota. The chapters and collegiate Panhellenic have no say in setting quota.

[OleMissGlitter]

Originally Posted by thetalady

The RFM/ NPC team sets quota. The chapters and collegiate Panhellenic have no say in setting quota.

You would think I would know this being a past Chapter Adviser, past Network Volunteer, and now a past committee member for AOII! I feel like it all changes so much. But I'm glad to be on an AOII sabbatical to enjoy my sweet girls