Can we get honest about hazing?

[DGTess]

Originally Posted by QLB817

Anecdotally with my nephew in a frat and my daughter talking about some of the frat guys she knows, the IFC groups have a long way to go as a whole about hazing. It is very much ingrained in how they do things. It's going to have to come down much more forcefully from their nationals I think to make a difference.

I think a lot of this is cultural, and will probably take at least another generation to eradicate. We tend to be more forgiving, more understanding, perhaps, of "boys will be boys". We also tend to see a handful of outside-the-norm men as "the outliers" who are tolerated, if not accepted, while a handful of outside-the-norm women are seen as "mean girls" who require an in-or-out decision.

[Tom Earp]

Originally Posted by DGTess

I think a lot of this is cultural, and will probably take at least another generation to eradicate. We tend to be more forgiving, more understanding, perhaps, of "boys will be boys". We also tend to see a handful of outside-the-norm men as "the outliers" who are tolerated, if not accepted, while a handful of outside-the-norm women are seen as "mean girls" who require an in-or-out decision.

This has gone on for to many Generations and there is now never any time for excuses.

1. Alumni who are involved must be keeping and eye out and make sure it doesn't happen. Especially Alum Advisers.

2. If hazing is going on, is it by a few or total chapter. If a few, get rid of them, not the whole chapter.

I saw this happen when one of my Chapters had a female student accuse them of being raped in the house! The girl recanted but the chapter was put on probation. They were doing very well but, another charge was trumped up and the were banned. I was and still am irate over this! Many good young men were harmed over this!

Try restarting a new chapter over and see how easy it is!

[PhilTau]

Originally Posted by Tom Earp

1. Alumni who are involved must be keeping and eye out and make sure it doesn't happen. Especially Alum Advisers.

Would add: Generally, an alumnus should stay away if he cannot resist telling the current actives war stories about his hazing experiences with how great the fraternity brotherhood was when he was involved in hazing.

[Sciencewoman]

Originally Posted by PhilTau

Would add: Generally, an alumnus should stay away if he cannot resist telling the current actives war stories about his hazing experiences with how great the fraternity brotherhood was when he was involved in hazing.

Agreed. I know of a chapter that had a long history as a local before affiliation...and some alumnae who were part of the local shared some stories about what they used to do before affiliation. Some actives thought these "traditions" would be "fun" to resurrect -- fortunately, that was quickly extinguished.